alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Penn Reels - just as you find them
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« Reply #2670 on: October 06, 2020, 04:35:59 AM »

That’s great! Thanks for the in depth info. What you say makes good sense.  In the early days starting a company was tough to do, so cutting costs would have been key to the business surviving.  Thus Ottos’s use  of interchangeable parts.
Appreciate the knowledge, mike.  
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« Reply #2671 on: October 06, 2020, 09:30:53 PM »

I agree with Dom, fantastic read Mike.
As usual, due to your extensive research and experience, this reel probably didn't exist as such as you explained..
But Gee, did they get a prototype done ?, a special order for side plates, would be great to ever see such a transaction, like the ones in your book.
If they did get a prototype done, Wow, what a find that would be......

But I guess that's just pie in the sky stuff   Grin
.......Always hoping to find that one of object...


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« Reply #2672 on: October 08, 2020, 11:52:53 AM »

 Here are a couple of 1st year(1941) penn 85's. Both have 250YDs stamped on seat, and both have the 1st year only dark brown spool. One of these has the smallest star adjuster I've ever seen. The other has the more standard star


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« Reply #2673 on: October 08, 2020, 02:55:15 PM »

Neat observation, Ted.  I never really checked that.
Love those first year 85's and 80's for that matter.
Thanks for showing
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« Reply #2674 on: October 09, 2020, 04:11:00 AM »

I wonder if smaller star is a 180 Baymaster star?
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« Reply #2675 on: October 11, 2020, 06:56:59 PM »

Found at a yard sale yesterday.... Penn Peer #209 Level wind.
Arrived with True Temper wooden handle rod. I gave $5. Upon
cleanup found two hairline cracks on one sidepiece (hidden by
dirt). Apparently prior over tightening was the culprit. Cleaned ,
greased, oiled and adjusted. Smoothest level wind I've ever
had . Metal spool is minty fresh. Really like all the adjustability.
Spare PAWL is cool. Just feels like a quality reel.

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« Reply #2676 on: October 11, 2020, 09:31:13 PM »

That's a classic outfit for sure.  I can just see it out on a party boat.

I have this theory that the spare pawl is actually a Penn admission that they were struggling with the Peerless levelwind engineering.  They should have also included a spare carriage and a spare worm.

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« Reply #2677 on: October 11, 2020, 11:47:35 PM »

is that rod a Harnell?
might be a better find than the reel
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« Reply #2678 on: October 12, 2020, 12:13:00 AM »

is that rod a Harnell?
might be a better find than the reel
If marked True Temper they were probably trying to ride Harnell's coat tails.  Likely solid fiberglass instead of tubular too.
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« Reply #2679 on: October 12, 2020, 10:22:53 AM »

Steve and Phil.... I added photos to the spread. Wanted to show
the uninitiated the "Spare Pawl" cubby, and the tension adjustment
for the level wind mechanism.... was able with some grease to get
this one dialed in to smooth slide mode.... will have to see how it
performs at work. The True Temper rod is in about 8-9 /10 condition.
as Phil indicated current Bay of E asking indicates the rod more
valuable than the reel ($50-$60). Kind of digging this Penn.... time
will tell if it is just the blush of new find or lasting appreciation. Wink

BTW... now feel the hairline crack not from over tightening but from
being dropped.  Undecided

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« Reply #2680 on: October 12, 2020, 10:44:02 AM »

hmmm...  may not be "Fancy French name"
Montague was a US OEM that made anything for anybody, like China does now
if that's what it is, weird to see the "brand" AND "OEM brand" on same product
may be added value, plus good rod condition

don't know about S/W sticks, but have seen a couple lighter, longer Montague rods
that seemed like decent thin-wall glass w/ too-few budget guides
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« Reply #2681 on: October 12, 2020, 01:36:30 PM »

I'm trying to think how it went.....  First, Ocean City bought Montague, then later Ture Temper bought Ocean City.  So, it all makes sense.

Look inside to see if the crack goes all the way though the side plate.  Sometimes a scratch can look like a crack.
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« Reply #2682 on: October 20, 2020, 01:59:20 PM »

Had a "tip" from one of the ohana (Thanks, again, Ted !) about this 285. Really a neat, un numbered , with a hex click button, and a really neat knob! Seat is marked 250 yards. Had to pay a bit more than I would have liked, but, it "came with" a really clean Long Beach 60. I haven't pulled the line from the 60, as yet....it looks like pretty good stuff, and I'll probably re use it, on something. The mono that was on the 285 will ....or could be...used on my weed trimmer ! Not only"big", but stiff, as well....they didn't want any break offs, I guess !


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« Reply #2683 on: October 20, 2020, 02:08:12 PM »


 Score !!

 Also the lb reel looks nice. Any pics of it ??
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« Reply #2684 on: October 20, 2020, 02:52:05 PM »

   I'll get some, tomorrow...it IS pretty clean!
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