Penn Spinfisher V 4500 LL

[FatTuna]

On the one I had, there was an extra washer in the rear drag that wasn't listed on the schematic. I'm 100% sure it was a 4500 LL.

[exp2000]

Gotta say i much preffer the LL mechanism to the shimano version , mch easier to service.

Howdy neighbour:)

The liveliner mechanism very weak and breaks easily all for the sake of a short screw.

The mechanism in the SSV models is considerably more robust but you will not find anything more reliable than the original Shimano mechanism.
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[swoffer]

Gotta say i much preffer the LL mechanism to the shimano version , mch easier to service.

Howdy neighbour:)

The liveliner mechanism very weak and breaks easily all for the sake of a short screw.

The mechanism in the SSV models is considerably more robust but you will not find anything more reliable than the original Shimano mechanism.
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Oh yeh for sure, totally agree , was really just talking from an ease of service point . You can take the side off these things without having to worry about 20 small parts going into orbit 

[twotone]

swoffer check your Dentist. That's how I got my first ultrasonic cleaner and it was free.