Post 90 Seaboy 185 and 190

Keta · March 05, 2018, 10:17:27 PM

99 will be close.

Carl L · March 06, 2018, 01:13:52 AM

Question was lb65 vs 190 spool ... I do'nt think that is anyway possible.. long beach 65 has green string, 190 has black..

Keta · March 06, 2018, 03:15:24 AM

Quote from: Carl L on March 06, 2018, 01:13:52 AM
Question was lb65 vs 190 spool ... I do'nt think that is anyway possible.. long beach 65 has green string, 190 has black..

The 190 in the photo is a pre 1990, we are talking post 1990 Seaboy 190. The pre 1990 Seaboy 190 uses the smaller diameter 29-100 spool, the Post 1990 Seaboy 190 uses a 29-190 spool that is close to if not the same diameter as a 29-65 spool. I have a 29M-65 spool and a 29L-190 spool, I'll compare them and see what's different.

What I need is a 29L-85 to convert a 190 to a 185.

Carl L · March 06, 2018, 03:47:29 AM

I was wondering about that, as Mystic Reel Parts specs were not definative.. thanks for the comment..

"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

Keta · March 06, 2018, 04:44:02 AM

It is cornfusing.

basto · March 06, 2018, 06:18:35 AM

YES, The 190 alloy spool certainly does fit a 65 long beach. I have one on mine because I thought the stainless spool was too heavy. When I had my 190, I put a 30-66 stand on it and all was fine, but when I put the 30-66 stand on my 65 lb, the spool rubbed on the stand, but a couple minutes with a small file on the stand would fix that.
Basto

Decker · March 06, 2018, 01:06:38 PM

Quote from: Keta on March 06, 2018, 03:15:24 AM

What I need is a 29L-85 to convert a 190 to a 185.

Lee, I had the same idea, and intend to use a stainless LB60 spool for the purpose.

Also, I believe the bars from a Mag 970 will fit the Seaboy 185 as another part of that conversion. It would be a sacrifice to the 970, but I'm optimistically waiting for a 970 frame to be produced.

thorhammer · March 06, 2018, 01:38:03 PM

501 /506 bars should work; don't sacrifice a 970!

Keta · March 06, 2018, 01:51:56 PM

I don't remember but I think I tried 501 posts in the 185 and they did not work, I'll them again.

Quote from: Decker on March 06, 2018, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 06, 2018, 03:15:24 AM

What I need is a 29L-85 to convert a 190 to a 185.

Lee, I had the same idea, and intend to use a stainless LB60 spool for the purpose.

Also, I believe the bars from a Mag 970 will fit the Seaboy 185 as another part of that conversion. It would be a sacrifice to the 970, but I'm optimistically waiting for a 970 frame to be produced.

I'm planning on trying to cut down frame bars to put on my 185 to replace the frame posts. Ted (Maxed) gave me a early Long Beach 60 stand that fit the 185 and I put a SS 30-65 stand on one of the 190's. I plan on putting Brian's 112H/500 drag kits in the reels and should easily get the 15# of drag I want. Hopefully the reel will be up to that much drag, and inshore Pacific halibut.

thorhammer · March 06, 2018, 03:12:47 PM

I didnt try it but am making an assumption because 500 posts fit the 990. Different plate dimension so it may not work.

Keta · March 06, 2018, 03:41:01 PM

The post 1990 Seaboy 180 frame posts are 1.78", the Jigmaster 501's ones are 1.63".

Decker · March 06, 2018, 03:46:19 PM

Quote from: Keta on March 06, 2018, 03:41:01 PM
The post 1990 Seaboy 180 frame posts are 1.78", the Jigmaster 501's ones are 1.63".

Yup. Those 970 bars have a lot of places to go (Seaboy 185, and Sailfisher 130) BUT ONLY after the Black Pearl 970 frame becomes available

Lee, I know you are a machine-wiz... Hope you can figure out how to make the bars from something else.

Alto Mare · March 06, 2018, 04:36:06 PM

Here is one reel that could really use upgrades on chromed parts. I've never seen a reel that deteriorates as fast as the Seaboy does, but not the earlier ones, those are just as tough as the rest of the Penn reels.

Sal

Decker · March 06, 2018, 05:10:58 PM

Quote from: Alto Mare on March 06, 2018, 04:36:06 PM
Here is one reel that could really use upgrades on chromed parts. I've never seen a reel that deteriorates as fast as the Seaboy does, but not the earlier ones, those are just as tough as the rest of the Penn reels.

Sal

Yes, the graphite Seaboys in my possession have a lot of corrosion on the outer metal parts. I bought them as a lot, and assumed it was because they were party boat reels that spent a lot of time on deck, or were otherwise neglected. Sal, are you suggesting that the heavy corrosion because of the quality of the parts, or?

Stainless posts, bars, seats, and handles (and anything else) would look good on them.

If I squeeze the plates together at the top of the reel, there is visible flex in the graphite. Not sure how that compares with fishing conditions, but maybe adding a post at the top would be worthwhile.

Alto Mare · March 06, 2018, 09:35:30 PM

Quote from: Decker on March 06, 2018, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 06, 2018, 04:36:06 PM
Here is one reel that could really use upgrades on chromed parts. I've never seen a reel that deteriorates as fast as the Seaboy does, but not the earlier ones, those are just as tough as the rest of the Penn reels.

Sal

Yes, the graphite Seaboys in my possession have a lot of corrosion on the outer metal parts. I bought them as a lot, and assumed it was because they were party boat reels that spent a lot of time on deck, or were otherwise neglected. Sal, are you suggesting that the heavy corrosion because of the quality of the parts, or?

The quality of the parts Joe. I guess keeping an eye on them might help. I personally didn't like the way they were reacting in such a short time, so I decided to get rid of all 4 I had. This was approximately 10 years ago.
Of course this is just my personal opinion.

Sal