Post 90 Seaboy 185 and 190

Decker · March 06, 2018, 09:56:46 PM

Quote from: Alto Mare on March 06, 2018, 09:35:30 PM

The quality of the parts Joe. I guess keeping an eye on them might help. I personally didn't like the way they were reacting in such a short time, so I decided to get rid of all 4 I had. This was approximately 10 years ago.

Hmm, sounds like motivation for a Longbeach/Seaboy franken-reel

mhc · March 06, 2018, 10:14:05 PM

Quote from: Decker on March 06, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 06, 2018, 09:35:30 PM

The quality of the parts Joe. I guess keeping an eye on them might help. I personally didn't like the way they were reacting in such a short time, so I decided to get rid of all 4 I had. This was approximately 10 years ago.

Hmm, sounds like motivation for a Longbeach/Seaboy franken-reel

Something like this LB 60 frame I made a while back using 506 parts and 2mm thick spacer rings;

I'll probably use Alan c's squidder bars when I narrow my 190 to 185 width.

Mike

Decker · March 06, 2018, 10:24:50 PM

Once again, Mike knocks it out of the park!

mo65 · March 07, 2018, 04:31:20 PM

I see some of you are narrowing your 190s to 185s...does anyone want to sell their 190 spool?

Decker · March 07, 2018, 05:03:07 PM

Quote from: mo65 on March 07, 2018, 04:31:20 PM
I see some of you are narrowing your 190s to 185s...does anyone want to sell their 190 spool?

I'll get in touch with you, Mo. Hope you're not in a hurry. /Joe

mo65 · March 07, 2018, 05:14:41 PM

Quote from: Decker on March 07, 2018, 05:03:07 PM

I'll get in touch with you, Mo. Hope you're not in a hurry. /Joe

No hurry at all Joe. I need an aluminum spool in the LB65 size for a project I'm going to undertake, and surprisingly, this size spool in aluminum is not an easy find. There are a few old Newells out there but that seems to be about it.

Decker · March 07, 2018, 09:15:02 PM

Quote from: mo65 on March 07, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Quote from: Decker on March 07, 2018, 05:03:07 PM

I'll get in touch with you, Mo. Hope you're not in a hurry. /Joe

No hurry at all Joe. I need an aluminum spool in the LB65 size for a project I'm going to undertake, and surprisingly, this size spool in aluminum is not an easy find. There are a few old Newells out there but that seems to be about it.

Since you're not in a hurry, I went and looked for it right away

The aluminum spool I pulled from the 190 has "112H-1" stamped on the side. Thought it looked familiar. Must be a 112H spool with a shorter shaft. I'll PM you, Mo.

Ron Jones · March 08, 2018, 12:36:54 AM

The 112 uses the 66 base, same size as the 190. The Chinese 190 spool is a 112H spool that fits a different pinion and is not set up for bearings. The LB65 is a slow, small dragged 112H.
Ron

mhc · March 08, 2018, 12:56:04 PM

Quote from: Decker on March 07, 2018, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 07, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Quote from: Decker on March 07, 2018, 05:03:07 PM

I'll get in touch with you, Mo. Hope you're not in a hurry. /Joe

No hurry at all Joe. I need an aluminum spool in the LB65 size for a project I'm going to undertake, and surprisingly, this size spool in aluminum is not an easy find. There are a few old Newells out there but that seems to be about it.

Since you're not in a hurry, I went and looked for it right away The aluminum spool I pulled from the 190 has "112H-1" stamped on the side. Thought it looked familiar. Must be a 112H spool with a shorter shaft. I'll PM you, Mo.

Sounds like Joe has got you covered Mo - if you need two I'll have a spare 190 spool I could send you when I narrow my 190.

Mike

Decker · March 08, 2018, 02:54:31 PM

Am I making a valid inference from what Sal and Ron have said? These post-1990 Seaboy reels are "made in USA" but some of the parts are made in China? That would explain a perceived difference in metal quality, and also the lack of information on these reels. Maybe these Seaboys are "black sheep" from a period where manufacturing was starting to transition overseas.

I don't want to prejudice Chinese-made Penns, because a lot of guys say that the current reel are of good quality. Besides, I'm a dragon

I got a bunch of Seaboys cheap and they will make great upgrade projects! Dilly dilly!

Keta · March 08, 2018, 03:27:35 PM

One of my 190's and the 185 have SS bridge plates stands. The only possible weak parts I see would be the "plastic" side plates and standard Penn posts. Two of mine have SS gear sleeves and AR dogs, a 15-99 dog works. I will know more once I hook and hopefully land a nice Pacific halibut with it and see how strong/weak this reel is.

Ron Jones · March 08, 2018, 03:31:01 PM

I could be wrong, but I thought all the post 1990 190s were made in China during the "bad" years.
Ron

Decker · March 08, 2018, 03:42:42 PM

Quote from: Ron Jones on March 08, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought all the post 1990 190s were made in China during the "bad" years.
Ron

Ron, this one clearly says made in USA, but what you are saying about China-made parts makes sense. Can you give more details about the "bad years"? I'd be interested to know, if only for historical knowledge.

Decker · March 08, 2018, 04:07:47 PM

Quote from: Keta on March 08, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
I will know more once I hook and hopefully land a nice Pacific halibut with it and see how strong/weak this reel is.

When the reel survives that ordeal, it will certainly quiet any controversy!

mo65 · March 08, 2018, 08:23:37 PM

Quote from: Keta on March 08, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
The only possible weak parts I see would be the "plastic" side plates and standard Penn posts.

I don't have one of these reels to verify this...but the parts photo from Scott's shows a brass pinion. I'd have to think that would be your weak link if you were going to test the reel's strength.