alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial the new penn international 50 VISX!
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2018, 09:44:09 AM »

love the hybrid leaf spring dogs

"the anti-reverse system.  it's a hybrid between a leaf spring ambassadeur-style dog and a standard spring loaded dog.  as long as it's quiet and as long as the dogs don't fail, we're good. i don't see a problem. "


wondering how much time will take to see this on another manufacturers.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2018, 11:22:58 AM »

Hey Alan PM me your address, I want to send you an Alan Tani wrench for a great tutorial.   Cheesy  Dominick
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2018, 04:23:53 PM »

Great tutorial, answered lots of questions I had about this reel.

Slightly disappointed to see a very very conventional design internally; when other manufacturers are doing things like thrust bearings to remove the pinion and left spool bearing side-load issues. But then again if it does the job, all good; 4 years of field testing should have told Penn if the pinion was going to fail prematurely.

I'm interested in the anti-reverse setup; do the "ears" on the dogs push the dogs back against the springs when the handle is turned forwards, rather than pulling them onto the ratchet when the handle goes backwards? If so that's a very clever design, if the "ears" fail then you will just get a ticking reel rather than losing your anti-reverse.

Also somewhat intrigued by the mixture of metric and imperial sized bearings in the reel.

Last but not least, 60lb of drag, I hope the rod (and angler) are tethered to the boat!
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2018, 05:56:21 PM »


Slightly disappointed to see a very very conventional design internally; when other manufacturers are doing things like thrust bearings to remove the pinion and left spool bearing side-load issues. But then again if it does the job, all good; 4 years of field testing should have told Penn if the pinion was going to fail prematurely.

I agree. I'm sure the reel is just great, and looks fantastic. Nothing wrong there. But I'm a litte disappointed by the apparent lack of imagination. Not just here, but among other reel companies* as well. Four years of research, only to say, "Hey! Let's do the same thing everyone else does! Brilliant!"  clapclapclap

Idunno. On the other hand, it can also be interpreted as testament to the excellence of Shimano's original design in ≈1987.

Thanks for the great tutorial and photo exposé!

*i guess it applies to cars and guns and whatever all else as well.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2018, 04:03:14 PM »

Hey Alan PM me your address, I want to send you an Alan Tani wrench for a great tutorial.   Cheesy  Dominick

now thats funny  Grin Grin
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2018, 07:37:10 PM »

nice job on this and insight as well.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2018, 09:16:36 PM »

I just saw this one.
Very Impressive Tutorial Alan.
Nobody does it better. Wink
I have to agree with you about those gears though.
These are a set out of an Everol.
Very Beefy.


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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 06:32:49 PM »

Alan, I just bought a 20 VISX.  I was going to send you a message on how to set the drag.  You kind of answered this with this tutorial on the 50.  My question was in regards to the adjustable strike setting piece.  With my 20 I plan on fishing 100 lb on it.  At what drag setting do I set this reel at full and what setting at strike?  Also, should I move that adjustable piece or just leave it at the #4 position?  Thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 09:40:06 PM »

it may need new bellevilles.  i had to switch out one.  i'm taking a look at another in a bit to see if it is still an issue.  ping me in a month and we'll see. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 07:33:02 AM »

Thanks Alan. 
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2019, 08:28:34 AM »

Alan: Very nice tutorial of that Penn. A customer was here to pickup three reels I had serviced and said what was the site I was on. I told him Alan Tani reel Repair, That is the guy I learned from.

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 12:58:42 PM »

I got my hands on a 80 VISW about a year before they were released in Australia. I found with the reel that I pre-serviced, a much better level pre-prepping from the box. The internal surfaces were given a good coating of Penn Blue, and most of the bearings (except spool) were also properly packed. There were a few screws that were dry, but generally I felt the factory prepping was pretty good.

The 80 VI (and I assume the 130) also had a removable drag cam housing from the right plate, which I thought was an excellent feature, however if the anodising on this new series is better than the VS line, could be a little unnecessary. From my experiences with many VS reels over the years, the cam recesses were a reel problem for corrosion, the anodising was not up to task for the rudimentary pre-prepping from the box these reels got, IMO. One wonders if there will be much of a market for 80 & 130 sized reels in the future, now that the IGFA has approved the braid backing and mono-topshot spool set-ups for record claims, with a few top-shot length requirements. This brings a 50 sized reel into the mix for fishing 130lb test to its limits with the drag capabilities of the modern reels out of the box. I guess time will tell, but I see the “big reel” market becoming greatly diminished over time.

I must admit, I was very disappointed to see that Penn did not go with axial, or even angular contact bearings as standard in the end plates. I think they had a real opportunity to “lead the field” by doing this. I do understand that this could have been a cost and a “replacement availability” issue, but as others have said, it showed a lack of taking a lack of real development to fix the one big issue with lever drags, in the modern context of big drags and small reels. The cranking shaft solution with the bearings, has just created further maintenance issues IMO. Have seen enough A/R and standard bearing failures in this area (AVET’s) to know that this is not a great idea. Surprised reel manufacturers do not fit a lip seal on the crank shafts to try and provide an extra level of protection for these bearings. The plastic bearing seal rings just don’t cut it.

Having said all that, I would still have one, particularly if the anodising is more robust than the previous line. Throw away those plastic screw collars!! I actually thought they were a nice touch, pre-greased and all! Going to risk a “forum slap” and agree to disagree with the boss on this one! Cheesy
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