alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial PENN SSVI: Service Tutorial and First Look
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2021, 10:51:38 PM »

IPX5 my ar$e!  It works in reverse also: OPX5 (whatever gets in can't get out).
I have written off two chinese built Penns this year due to internal corrosion.  The grease they are using seems to hold all the salt and converts itself into blue/grey crystals/concrete; I can only presume the graphite or Li in the grease reacts with the salt.  I am guessing that the water came down through the pinion seal judging by the rusted ARBs. Also, the "sealed" sideplate bearings were rusted solid.
In both cases the pinion gear bridge in the body just corroded away.  Both these were smaller bodys where the bridge has only a couple of mm of metal over the top as you can see in one of the photos.  I have done a couple of 6000 size and they were still sealed and the grease in good condition.
IMHO, get a 'Gosa!
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2021, 05:55:08 PM »

IPX5 my ar$e!  It works in reverse also: OPX5 (whatever gets in can't get out).
I have written off two chinese built Penns this year due to internal corrosion.  The grease they are using seems to hold all the salt and converts itself into blue/grey crystals/concrete; I can only presume the graphite or Li in the grease reacts with the salt.  I am guessing that the water came down through the pinion seal judging by the rusted ARBs. Also, the "sealed" sideplate bearings were rusted solid.
In both cases the pinion gear bridge in the body just corroded away.  Both these were smaller bodys where the bridge has only a couple of mm of metal over the top as you can see in one of the photos.  I have done a couple of 6000 size and they were still sealed and the grease in good condition.
IMHO, get a 'Gosa!
cheers
Steve
Ouch. What the heck were you doing with that thing for it to get that bad?

My problem is most sealed or semi sealed reels don't come in smaller sizes, and im trying to find something I can take on a kayak with my 4yr old without worrying about it going swimming. Or more specifically if it does go in the drink it doesn't mean the end of the trip, it can wait til I get home for a cleanout.

Why aren't there any smaller reels with brass or better internals? Screw sealing, I'd prefer corrosion resistant materials.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2021, 11:07:30 PM »

IPX5 my ar$e!  It works in reverse also: OPX5 (whatever gets in can't get out).
I have written off two chinese built Penns this year due to internal corrosion.  The grease they are using seems to hold all the salt and converts itself into blue/grey crystals/concrete; I can only presume the graphite or Li in the grease reacts with the salt.  I am guessing that the water came down through the pinion seal judging by the rusted ARBs. Also, the "sealed" sideplate bearings were rusted solid.
In both cases the pinion gear bridge in the body just corroded away.  Both these were smaller bodys where the bridge has only a couple of mm of metal over the top as you can see in one of the photos.  I have done a couple of 6000 size and they were still sealed and the grease in good condition.
IMHO, get a 'Gosa!
cheers
Steve
Ouch. What the heck were you doing with that thing for it to get that bad?

Customers reels  Roll Eyes (I have a mix of classic ABUs, Certate and Luvias with nothing newer than 2010). I don't buy chinese rubbish, and I refuse to service dept store garbage.
IMHO Penn should do better when they sell these for the price of a Saragosa!
There is nothing out there that I have found that will resist a dunking, but the 'Gosa seems to come the closest without paying for a Van Stahl.  You will get closer if you fully strip and grease the reel before use, at least get some protection applied.

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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2021, 02:09:08 AM »


Ouch. What the heck were you doing with that thing for it to get that bad?

My problem is most sealed or semi sealed reels don't come in smaller sizes, and im trying to find something I can take on a kayak with my 4yr old without worrying about it going swimming. Or more specifically if it does go in the drink it doesn't mean the end of the trip, it can wait til I get home for a cleanout.

Why aren't there any smaller reels with brass or better internals? Screw sealing, I'd prefer corrosion resistant materials.

If you're cranking with your left hand then you want the older Penn's - 712, 714, 716, 420SS or 430SS. All strong reels, give them a good service prior, they will handle a dunk and still work perfectly normal, but make sure you then do give them a teardown soon after just to be on the safe side.

Unfortunately, they never made any of those reels with a right hand crank, with the exception of the 713z. My favourite Penn reel; I also had a 711z but didn't like the overall size/balance of the larger rotor and spool on the same size body as the 713z.

Cheers,
Andrew
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