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« on: May 06, 2019, 06:38:46 AM »

Recently I have acquired a Scotty 1101 model and have  questions about how does the auto stop switch work using the plastic line stops.  I thought they function tripping a lever or something through the switch gate,  butt they sail through to the spool in auto mode.  Moving them up the cable didnít affect the position where the cable stops.
  I would like to make the auto 🛑 stop adjusting from the factory setting so Iíve got 4 feet hanging on the boom.   Butt I donít understand yet how the switch is triggered by the plastic line stops.
   Can someone share something on this topic 🎣.      Thanks 🙏
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 08:11:15 AM »

Gary: I believe there are two types of plastic line stoppers; one to hold clips in place (black) and then stoppers (red and or green). I gave up on those years ago now I use a fishing swivel tied (end of braid line) or crimped (wire line) and then run what ever length of the line or your choice (cord or heavy mono) to the ball. Use a large swivel that just easily fits through the "gate" and it will be your stopper and it will never slide around like the plastic ones can. I hope that makes sense.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 08:36:29 AM »

Gary, you can buy extra plastic beads to put on the cable at the level you want the ball to stop.  I used to stop the ball at the water line so that there was less strain on the boom and you could pull the ball to the hook on the boom so that you could reset your tackle.  Dominick
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 02:11:04 PM »

Thanks for starters, Iíve heard of using a bead or large swivel before, butt how does the switch work?  I canít see anything tripping going thru the gate, is
The switch gate is just a big oval hole that the line passes through.  It sort of floats back and forth and I canít see any thing happening and the stoppers wind onto the spool before the switch cuts out.
  I,m going to crimp in a swivel in place do the factory little plastic stops soon and retest.
     Is the switch triggered by detecting the bead or swivel at the gate?  Thanks 🙏 for sharing your thoughts.🎣
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2019, 07:30:37 PM »

Ok, I found some time and called the Scotty people.  They were friendly and helpful.  I asked the question about how does the auto 🛑 stop switch work.  Itís just as simple as presumed,  butt, itís simply the wire line or spectra comes in and when a stopper ( bead, factory plastic stopper, or large swivel, etc) enters the gate,  it tripps a shutter and cuts the power.   
   That said with the power cord disconnected and when the auto function of the switch is turned on the round ring the gate with the flapper will close and the crank winding will begin.
  When and if the bead,swivel, or crimp, come through the switch gate the flapper moves and interups the power so the motor quits.
  The swivel or bead seems to be a waay better addition to the setup.  I did eliminate the factory plastic stops, and tested it in the yard. 
  Iíve got some phone pictures that are slow to appear on my pad but will post the pictures of the gate, and flapper , swivel etc.
   Thanks to all who replyed,  I wanna help others if possible. Just saying,  good fishing 🎣.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 08:14:34 AM »

For what itís worth sharing the information ℹ️.   Hereís a couple of pictures of the switch gate open and closed.  When the dial part of the switch is turned on the side shutter flapper curtain move over and almost closes the gate tunnel.  Also the motor is energized and winds in the line.   
  The switch is triggered by the 🛑 stopper being a bead, swivel, or crimp.  It must be large enough to insure it moves the flapper as it cranking fairly fast rpm.
  The pictures arenít very good, butt you May get the idea.   In my case the factory little plastic stops were not effective some of the time.  Now we know more about stuff than before,  thanks 🙏.
    Maybe this will help someone else?🎣


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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2019, 07:16:24 AM »

Mystery solved! I love using the swivel as it never moves. Scotty is a great Canadian company that is great to deal with and the warranty is second to none and if you need parts they usually send them for free. I like the fact that they have not moved production over seas!

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2019, 12:27:32 PM »

I do like that better than the cannon design.  it senses electrical current in the wire and no way to make it work with braid unless maybe a 10'-20' length of wire were used between the ball and the braid?
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 03:34:05 PM »

I do like that better than the cannon design.  it senses electrical current in the wire and no way to make it work with braid unless maybe a 10'-20' length of wire were used between the ball and the braid?

 David, just go buy a couple Scotty's and be done with the cable !! Then sell your Cannons to recover cost of new Scotty's. Problem solved !!

 Ted
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 07:29:46 PM »

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and experience.🐣  Iíve cranked a Scotty for 25 years and kinda like the features of the electric models, 🐘 these people have a great warranty and weíre very interested and help full.    I,m hoping to have a great salmon season with the swivel, and 12-15# weight when itís sunny afternoon.🧜‍♂️   🌞
I now know how the auto stop works and appreciate your help.🐙


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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2019, 05:59:32 AM »

I do like that better than the cannon design.  it senses electrical current in the wire and no way to make it work with braid unless maybe a 10'-20' length of wire were used between the ball and the braid?

 David, just go buy a couple Scotty's and be done with the cable !! Then sell your Cannons to recover cost of new Scotty's. Problem solved !!

 Ted

I came very close to doing just that but changed my mind at the thought of having to rewire my boat to accommodate them.  maybe one day I will make time to do just that but I still have a laundry list of items to take care of work is still taking up to much of my time.
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