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« on: May 07, 2019, 08:38:14 PM » |
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I just completed turning a normal 113H into a narrowed YTS with a Tiberon kit, and am getting ready to spool it. And now I'm unsure of my plan. My first thought was 60#JB1 hollow. I like hollow braid, am reasonably good at and have the tools for splicing, and I have always felt that "hey, if the action is hot and I have to re-rig my topshot instead of grabbing another pole, I can tie an FG or RP knot quickly in hollow the same as with solid braid". But I also realize that solid has a much smaller diameter than hollow, so how much capacity am I giving up? (and does it matter in the practical sense? After all, even with the 4:1 gear I installed this is still a single speed). And I know that I hear a lot of buzz with people swearing by the Power Pro Max Quatro specifically for it's smaller diameter/greater capacity, but usually part of the conversation involves using any of the modern generation of small 2 speeds.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 07:42:20 AM » |
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It kind of depends on how your going to use the reel when you talk rigging.
I have a 113HN and use it as a backup 40 lb test reel. I put 300 yards of 60 lb solid braid and got around 100 yards of 40 lb mono on top. I like long topshots and 400 yards of line in plenty for my use. By going with the 60 lb braid I could always bump that reel to 50 lb toppers if needed.
So unless you need a lot more braid on your reel you could go with MQ but even with 60 lb JB you can get a whole lot of braid on it especially if you use shorter topshots.
I would imagine you could get 600 yards of the JB on that reel with a shorter topshot, do you need more than that?
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 07:47:01 AM » |
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At that diameter line, you can tie a surgeon loop to double soild braid and double uni-knot to topshot quickly and and have a very castable knot- I use this arramgement up to 200lb PP braid with 130 topshot and it has worked. just make sure your loops are in order on the mono when you cinch down.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 07:56:26 AM » |
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I used mine for yoyo with 40# and just loaded it with a full 1/4# spool of 40# BigGame… 370 yds.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2019, 08:20:38 AM » |
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I do the same thing as SoCalAnger. 60# braid under 40 or 50 mono / floro. Either will work, I like it best with 50# floro unless the fish are line shy. Ron Jones
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 09:44:08 PM » |
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Thanks everyone for all the great feedback! I shipped the reel off Monday to Alan and The Boss reached out alleviated my concerns about capacity - I'm a relative newcomer to this braid game and still get fooled by how much line you can on a reel vs. the old Dacron or Mono. Going to be going with 80# hollow and I can change out topshots as I see fit whether I am dropshotting yellows off the bottom, flylining a 'dine to finicky bluefin, or cranking some jigs. I'm really excited to pack this reel along on a trip I have coming up in June. Now just need to figure out what rod to pair it with...
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2019, 08:19:19 AM » |
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80# gives you more options but for my use, 600'-800' deep Pacific halibut, 60# is far better. We do not cast in this fishery so 3'-10' 50# topshots work well. I have killed halibut up to 160# and cut loose fish well over 200# using 50# mono topshots.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2019, 09:13:56 AM » |
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80 pound hollow, 33 yard topshot of 50 or 60# mono, 15 pounds of drag. tossin' iron!
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 01:07:35 PM » |
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That is how I set up my Torque 40NLD2 that I put on the 8-1/2' rod you delivered last week for the same use. The only difference is I use a much shorter L-2-L topshot.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2019, 11:24:03 AM » |
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None other than the original Tank is a YTS, and Dominick has landed marlin on it, and I think one of the Ohana around Oz or New Zealand (Chris maybe? ) might've gotten a sword on it, so you shoudnt sweat capacity for your application.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2019, 07:47:31 PM » |
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With all due respect the the YTS was developed way before the so called "Tank " was even thought about.
A ProGear 545, then the 454 and then the YTS
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2019, 08:07:48 PM » |
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With all due respect, the Yellowtail Special was created long before Pro-Gear started making kits and very long before they started making reels. Carl Newell figured out that a 66 spool would be dandy on a 113H, especially with a 4:1 gear ratio. As it happens, the original Tank, one of the most famous single reels at least on the West Coast, was made with a Tiburon kit that was the size of a 66 spool on a 113H, called the Yellowtail Special. Just trying to keep things straight. Something created here is a 66 spool on a 113, we call it the Grouper Special. Not to insinuate that the old Pro Gears aren't great, but they were based on work that came long before them. The Man
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2019, 08:41:35 PM » |
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Yeah well, If I see farther it's because I stand on the shoulders of giants. No one was first here, someone always provided inspiration. My 545 is tanked out with a ss double dog bridge, ss sleeve, 7 stack drag, power handle and 400 yds of spectra with whatever top shot I feel like... and it stays home on date night because one of the other shiny 2-speeds catches my eye.
A 'real’ YTS is a narrowed 113h. The ProGear YTS and the Penn Baja Special are both smaller reels holding 300 yds of 40#. The ProGear 440 and 454/YTS came out at the same time. The later ones had a clicker which is nice!
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