Penn 209 teardown and refresh, my first reel project!

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Lingwendil

Quote from: wfjord on August 15, 2019, 03:45:36 AM
Lingwendil,
Sorry for the slight detour.

No worries 8)

Quote from: George6308 on August 15, 2019, 03:50:12 AM
I would replace the cracked ring. They are available.  Replace the entire drag washer set with a complete replacement HT-100 set including the newer stainless steel drag washers Penn part set 6-155.
I would also give some thought in replacing the metal 29-209 spool with the newer 29L-209 Aluminium spool. As to the washer on top,of the gear it's your choice, however the Delrin washer is not going to give you much improvement.

I'll get new drags/washers for both. I already have an aluminum spool that's going on reel #1, and I may just set up #2 for pier (underhand cast away from the pilings only really) fishing, so the original spool will do for now. I'll keep an eye out for a cheap used one, the aluminum spool I have was $12 shipped, can't beat that :)

Is the side ring the same part number at mystic parts? Or do I need to put out feelers for used ones? I don't see multiple versions listed for them.


Quote from: oc1 on August 15, 2019, 05:36:54 AM
That guy wasn't kidding around.  It looks like about 100 pound test Ashaway braided nylon line.  Probably less than 100 yards of it.  Is the levelwind carriage wallowed out, or was it all just wishful thinking?
-steve

Level wind looks in great condition, actually. The guide isn't bent, and no unnatural wear. Maybe it was replaced a while back? I like the line, might keep it for a display reel at some point.


I've attached my cart for now, I'll be grabbing stainless wingnuts and hex nuts for the clamps locally, but otherwise this looks like all I need otherwise is a side ring. If I need to grab a side ring somewhere else I'll go ahead and order the parts from mystic today.
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

foakes

#31
After looking at your grocery list, Ling —

Another approach I use often — but that most might think is terrible...

Buy a new 209 from Wal-Mart for $59.99 + tax, free shipping.

It comes with HT-100's, SS drag discs, clamp, aluminum spool, fiber washer, etc...

Rob the parts you need — then you have around 74 new parts left over for your other 209's as they need a part.

This wouldn't be for collector shelf-princess reels — but for reels that you intend to use.

All parts fit.

Best,

Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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The first rule of fishing is to fish where the fish are. The second rule of fishing is to never forget the first rule.

"Enjoy the little things in Life — For someday, you may look back — and realize that they were the big things"
                                                     Fred O.

Crow

There's nothing wrong with a few "F's" on your record....Food, Fun, Flowers, Fishing, Friends, and Fun....to name just a few !

Lingwendil

#33
After handling a modern production 209 recently I wasn't all that impressed. It didn't feel as smooth, and I'm accumulating spare parts for every hobby I have as it is... I think I'll keep an eye out for a lightly used one locally, but otherwise I'm happy just ordering the bits I need for now.

I've changed my mind on the parts order, and will go for a set of carbontex and a set of HT100 for these, reel #1 (green handle) will get the carbontex. I hear good things, so for a few dollars difference why not. Also added a small bottle of corrosionX as well, since I'm out of oil anyway (other than Ballistol) so I may as well. Still thinking of the side ring issue- if the parts that mystic sells wont work as a replacement I'll go ahead and order the parts soon.
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

George6308


Lingwendil

Just added one to the order and placed it! Now we wait.  8)
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

Lingwendil

Parts came in! Even with economy shipping that was fast!

Dried any residual oil off as I went, and greased as I went, applying oil as needed, and on the threads of each screw to keep corrosion away. I was prepared for a struggle, but really my main trouble was keeping the parts all in place while I got the bridge assembly back on.
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

Lingwendil

A small jar worked well to hold everything up while getting the screws all started. Gave it all a final tighten, added oil to the oil points, then adjusted everything.
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

Lingwendil

This thing is gorgeous now. The carbontex drags feel awesome just by moving the spool by hand. This is the nicest piece of gear I own now, just needs a nice rod to go with it!

On to reel #2 tomorrow.
Levelwind Lunatic! Cheap Bastard!

Penn and Pflueger nutjob!

Eyes out for: Pflueger Rocket, vintage 4-1 ratio or better spinning reels (especially metal-bodied and ultralight!)

wfjord


Crow

There's nothing wrong with a few "F's" on your record....Food, Fun, Flowers, Fishing, Friends, and Fun....to name just a few !

Captain64-200

That maroon and chrome combination is very nice , good job !
Fred from Biarritz ,

foakes

#42
Excellent work!

The purposeful weak link in the L/W assembly is the nylon white idler gear inside the tail-plate side.

The beauty of this design is that in case of an issue — this sacrificial part will protect the other much more expensive parts of the reel and L/W assembly from damage — and maybe an angler's finger also...

In the earliest Penn LW reels — this part was kind of a more unflexible Bakelite.

Unless this part appears extremely new and solid — I generally just replace it when doing a service.

Eliminates comebacks — and more importantly, keeps the fisherman fishing.

One time, while having a dental procedure by a specialist Dentist — we started talking about fishing reels (he talked while I listened with a mouth full of junk).  Come to find out, he had a 5 gallon bucket of 209 LW's up at his cabin that he used for trolling.  They were all non-operational — and he would just buy a couple more new ones every 3 years, or so.  He brought them to me — and said if I could fix (2) for him — I could have the rest of the bucket.

After inspecting the 14 or 15 reels — every one just needed a basic service, a new pawl, and the nylon idler gear.  Sold all of them after restoring to new — that paid for my dental deductible.

These 109's, 9's, 209's, and 309's are solid and reliable performers.

Best,

Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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The first rule of fishing is to fish where the fish are. The second rule of fishing is to never forget the first rule.

"Enjoy the little things in Life — For someday, you may look back — and realize that they were the big things"
                                                     Fred O.

Alto Mare

Nice job! not bad for your first reel project.
I really like these reels, but can't stand the lever line mechanism, could really be finicky at times.
I own a couple of  new sets of 9, 109 and 10, eventually I will be making something from stainless steel on my lathe to remove the LV on the ones I would use.

Great work!

Sal
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

Bill B

Looks like we brought another one to the Darkside...😱  Good job brother.  Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!