alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial 113H Stainless
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« on: December 01, 2019, 05:42:41 PM »

Are the factory parts on the bright red-sided 113H's, side plate rings, drag star, eccentric lever, etc stainless? I searched the internet and could find nothing other than, "corrosion-resistant" for a description. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2019, 06:46:23 PM »

They used to be chrome plated brass. A lot of those parts are now stainless steel on the ones made in China. Not a high grade of ss though.           Rudy
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2019, 08:12:21 PM »

Interesting, these are USA made, not H2, the reason I ask is, they show no corrosion or brass under scratches, and the sheen seems just slightly different than the chrome ones I know are chrome. They show no corrosion at all, and are older red sides. I just don't know how to tell if they are or not. I have the equipment to polish stainless, if that's what they are.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2019, 08:41:05 PM »

The scratches might not be deep enough to show the brass.  Maybe pop off one of the rings & sand a little spot on the inside surface & see if any brass shows up. Stainless will never have the luster of chrome. The best chrome has a coat of nickle under the chrome which gives it the best depth of luster. The older rings from the 60's & earlier had the best looking chrome. Chrome from about the 70's & later didn't have as good of a chrome job.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2019, 08:46:03 PM »


 Some USA made 113h have stainless rings. If your not sure, just hit emery cloth on the under side that's hidden.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 09:09:19 PM »

I'll do that. They look stainless. I hope they are, I can clean that up well. I have a 3rd one, which has dark maroon sides, it is just virgin in appearance, but I can tell it is chromed. The other two, with fire engine red sides, they are not as virgin, but the rings just have a different look. I bet they are stainless.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2019, 09:24:21 PM »

I'm not positive but I think the last few years of the Sp. Senators & Senators produced here in the US were switched to ss.  Especially the ones with the 5 hole rings. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 03:32:31 AM »

I'm not positive but I think the last few years of the Sp. Senators & Senators produced here in the US were switched to ss.  Especially the ones with the 5 hole rings. 
I believe you are correct Rudy. The problem, you would probably better off with Chromed Brass, if you choose to go with those. I've seen a few with rust.
I'm surprised Penn would approve such grade of stainless steel on their reels Undecided
I've seen some members make their own, but they're a lot of work and couldn't justifie their cost.
Chris from Australia offered to make me a set on him a while back, I told him I appreciate it but, but didn't want him to do all that work.
"The Tank" has a ss set from him...thanks again Chris!

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 07:29:05 AM »

Cheaper SS is usually 400 series and is magnetic. The better SS is 300 series and not magnetic.  Most marine SS fasteners are 304, also commonly referred to as 18-8, being non magnetic.  The commonest high grade is 316 series, about 25% more $$ than the 304.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 06:16:14 AM »

They are stainless, they buff up nice.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 03:55:25 PM »

They are stainless, they buff up nice.

 Nice !!

 Just to clarify, your stainless rings are the 8 hole version and also the perimeter screws are for flat screwdriver (not Philips head)

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 08:15:55 PM »

Actually, they are 8 hole version, with the 1/2 frame and 1 top post, Phillips head screws, it was a 113HSP, I'm turning into a Tiburon narrow, T4N, I got the spool and frame from Randy. Got a counterbalanced handle from Sal. My other 4/0 project, a 113 Grouper Special, is just waiting for your base and posts, and a stainless 66 spool. I have a great big buffer I do vintage auto stainless in, the 113H stainless rings came out great using stainless compound on a 14" spiral buff, then white compound on a loose buff. If I wanted I could have started with a sisal wheel and got them perfectly new again. As it is the spiral buff got 98% of everything off them, very shiny, good enough for a working reel. I am going to try and post some pictures of these things.
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