alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Daiwa 7250HRLA, a look inside a light spinner
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« on: December 06, 2019, 04:23:45 PM »

Here is a Daiwa 7250HRLA on the right, side-by-side with a Zebco XRL40.  These are very similar, the Zeb weighs about half an ounce lighter.  Spool diameter is the same, but the Daiwa might hold a tad more line.  Even the drag systems are similar.


Removing handle screw.


Removing handle.


Removing cover plate screws.


Removing cover plate.


A look at the anti-reverse claw, spring, and screw.


Removing the oscillating slider screw detaches the axle.


Removing the spool and axle.


Removing the drive gear.



The oscillating slider and oscillating gear remain.



A look inside the empty housing.


A look inside the rotor and bail trip assembly.


Rotor is attached to the pinion and rotor with a 12mm nut that has left handed threads.


At this point I found separating the rotor from the pinion and housing very difficult.  


It took a few minutes of pondering, but recall a couple years ago having the same problem with a D-A-M Quick 110.  Sure enough, there are some internal threads inside the rotor as in the Quick.  So the rotor must be unscrewed.  Temporarily installing the drive gear and handle makes this chore somewhat easier.



The plate held by 3 screws is known as the ball bearing retaining washer.





A look at the pinion and ball bearing.


The bail was working very well as it was, but I took it apart anyway to clean up the bail arm.  In Daiwa lingo, this part is known as the arm lever.



Removing the bail nut and line roller with a 5mm socket.




Removing the arm lever and bail spring.



The parts cleaned up very well with Simple Green.



Pinion and ball bearing secured and in place.  A dab of grease onto the bail trip stud.


The rotor, bail assembly, and oscillating gear are back in place.


Oscillating slider reinserted.


Reinserting the drive gear.


Axle is reattached to the oscillating slider.


Almost finished, reattaching cover plate.


This reel felt pretty rough before I serviced it, but now rivals any brand new reel, at least mechanically.  It weighs about 9 ounces, maybe considered ultralight back in the day.  Unsure if there was a smaller reel in this series, does anyone know?  Line capacity is listed as 300 yds of 6 lb. mono.  IMHO 8 lb mono would work very well.



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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2019, 04:26:31 PM »

Schematics


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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2019, 06:04:53 PM »

Another nice job !!
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2019, 07:19:53 PM »

Thanks for another great tutorial!

I have been following your tutorials in great detail.  These are the types of fishing reels I grew up with in Florida in the 60's and 70's.  Tomorrow I hit the Raleigh (NC) flea market and hope to pick up some of the reels that you have included in the tutorials.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 07:45:04 PM »

   I was thinkin' all day Chester...what was it that I needed to warn you about the 7250HRLA? Then I read this post and it all came back about Chad and I having the same trouble. Hee hee...ain't no way that rotor would ever work loose.
   You asked if there was a smaller model in the series...there is a 7150...but I don't know the size. I've seen two schematics, one listed it to hold 300yds. of 6lb., the other says 265yds. of 6 lb. Almost sounds like the same reel.
   Great tutorial...covers any trouble spots...a chimp could follow this and successfully service that reel. Cool


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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2019, 08:39:09 AM »

Back on line after "No-Tech" Friday --

Did a few chores around the house, finished up the latest C.J. Box, finished a Vince Flynn, and started a great old Elmer Kelton.

This little Daiwa 7250HRLA is one of my favorite reels.  It is a sleeper -- because you do not know the quality of the engineering and components -- until you break it down like Chester did.  It looks like most of the other reels of the late 70's out of Japan -- which are mostly good reels also.

I believe that this is a high speed retrieve.

I remember when Barry was doing one of these -- he needed a few little parts -- and after I found them, I decided to build one for myself.

It has never been on a rod as of yet -- but the function and balance is extremely impressive.

The bail has a positive and crisp snap-back every time.

There are larger reels that I have handled in this series -- don't know about smaller -  might be...

One little hint that I do on threaded rotors -- when reassembling -- I grease the threaded part of the pinion or worm drive liberally.

This allows a clean and easy service in 2, 10, or 20 years -- with no damage to the aluminum rotor threads.  And, an easier reassembly.

Great work, Chester!

Best, Fred
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2019, 11:06:59 AM »

Back on line after "No-Tech" Friday --

There are larger reels that I have handled in this series -- don't know about smaller -  might be...

Best, Fred


Not sure where y'all consider this series starting & stopping but it seems to go on forever.  Roll Eyes

52 different models numbers from 1967 through 1978 with the lowest 7150-HRL Ultra-lite (1976) and highest 7850-RLA Heavy Salwater (1975).

That, my friends, is why I have trouble getting into the Japanese/Asian made reel models. It's a seemingly endless endeavor trying to figure it all out.  Roll Eyes 52 different reels in the 7000 series  Huh?, and there's at least another 300 models from that era with different numbers.  Shocked If there was an exhausted emoji I'd use it here!  Wink  Grin     
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2019, 08:15:08 PM »

Thanks for the look & tips on this reel.

Frank
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2019, 08:17:37 PM »

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Did a few chores around the house, finished up the latest C.J. Box, finished a Vince Flynn, and started a great old Elmer Kelton.
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Best, Fred


Familiar with Box; do the other two gents write in a similar genre (& with as much skill) ?

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2019, 08:57:30 PM »

CJ Box, of course, is the author of the Joe Pickett series -- Wyoming Game Warden.  Very realistic, and similar to the Longmire TV series.

Vince Flynn was a Techno-Thriller author who wrote the Mitch Rapp series.  He passed on recently -- way too young -- and is being Ghost written by an excellent writer now.  Similar to the Lee Childs Jack Reacher books, David Baldacci books, and others.

Elmer Kelton is possibly (IMO) the best Western writer of all time.  His character development, actual knowledge of Texas in the early to mid 1800's, as well as his no-nonsense descriptions of what it was really like in the early days of Texas -- stands alone as legitimate and believable.

Having read every Louis L'Amour, Zane Grey, and Max Brand -- many twice over 40 years -- Elmer Kelton is considered by many experts, and me -- to be the most authentic and accurate Western Writer of all time.

I generally have 3 or 4 books going at one time -- and finish a couple every week.

Historical, adventure, thrillers, religious, and bios.

I am no expert, but I read 50 or 60 books a year -- and just know what I like.

Plus a few tech mags, Time, tackle information, and wood-working how-to mags.

Books and novels are pretty good friends of mine.

Best,

Fred

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Now, back to the original thread -- sorry, Festus!  What does the HRLA stand for?

Maybe Highspeed, Right, Left, Ambidextrous -- or something else completely?  I also have a RLA without the "H".

Maybe if someone had an original box -- that might explain things.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2019, 09:03:33 AM »

 What does the HRLA stand for? Maybe High speed, Right, Left, Ambidextrous -- or something else completely?  I also have a RLA without the "H".

   And there are HRL models too. These Daiwas are a great bang for the buck.  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2019, 06:09:27 PM »

I've mentioned it before; there's a good article at worldseafishing.com on the Daiwa 7000 series.  Evidently, not a true series in the sense that all the reels look alike, but just get bigger as the numbers go up, but merely a grouping of reels of about the same vintage. The "H" is almost surely for "high speed".  Some of the reels have BBs and some don't; maybe that relates somehow to the "A"? Or, maybe the "A" is like the "A" in a Mitchell 300A, IDing a newer but similar version of a previous model.

I'll have to try a Kelton book; was always partial to Grey, as some of his books centered on Arizona, where I lived for some years.  Ditto Tony Hillerman, who would have to be my choice for most realistic "modern" western mystery/action writer (saying that without being familiar with Kelton).  Will pick up a Craig Johnson (Longmire) book later this week & see what I think.

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2019, 06:25:15 PM »

Never read a Longmire book, Frank --

Just enjoyed the series on Netflix.

However, I have read every Hillerman (good to read in order) -- I have read one that his daughter wrote -- and part of another -- but it is odd how dialogue, character development, and author's styles are seldom the same as the original author.

As we have traveled through the Southwest -- passing Shiprock, Clovis, Farmington -- and visiting Chaco Canyon, Canyon DeChelly, and other places -- we often thought of Chee, Leaphorn, and others.

Best, Fred
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2019, 08:43:05 AM »

I love my maroon 7250RLA!
Looks the same inside as your HRLA, must just have slower gearing.
I got it on ebay for $5 shipped.

Mo, thanks for the tip about getting the rotor off!

It was very dirty, but cleaned up nice and runs smooth!
The drag washer was missing so I made a CF one and it works beautifully.
Great little reels!

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2019, 05:11:32 PM »

Thanks for another great tutorial!

I have been following your tutorials in great detail.  These are the types of fishing reels I grew up with in Florida in the 60's and 70's.  Tomorrow I hit the Raleigh (NC) flea market and hope to pick up some of the reels that you have included in the tutorials.
BocaSnook1, are you having any luck at flea markets in North Carolina?  I'm in the border state of Tennessee and pickings are pretty slim unless you like Zebco 202 or worn out low profile baitcasting reels.  It's actually cheaper to pay ebay prices and shipping instead of wasting time running the roads and burning gas.

Glad to know these tutorials are helping.
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