alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial P229m 4:1 - 5:1 ?
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« on: February 11, 2020, 07:53:52 PM »

Recently purchased a p229m being completely honest I tried searching but forgot what page I was on.  Can anyone confirm the ratio on this reel. Thank you also is the reel foot slimmer then the p229f or are they the same size Iím guessing they are the same I canít see why they would be any different being they are both 229ís once again thank you!
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 06:04:27 AM »

Itís 4-1   The feet are all the same if there aluminum like a P. Some of the graphite Newellís have a stainless foot imbedded in the graphite that are a thinner profile. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 07:02:40 AM »

Both P 229s are the same parts except the gears. M is 4.1 and F is 5.1. If you decide to change the gears make sure you change the main gear and pinion together. They have to match.

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 07:38:36 AM »

I was really happy to find a NIB P220m. Perfect shallow water rockfish reel.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 01:13:14 PM »

Thanks gents! Iím hoping when I get her in The mail that sheís not a frankenreel. As I have ran into that problem before. i donít plan on switching out anything unless I really need to. 4:1 fits my cod/blackfish needs my accurate tern release lever broke off my putting it into freespool gonna throw it in the garbage  Iíve only had it for 3 months.... 2nd time repairing the same issue.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 01:19:10 PM »

The P series M's were 4:1 and the later M's were 3.6:1?
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2020, 06:25:26 PM »

Mark,  a lot late here,  but I just went and checked the ratio of mine.  P220M

You are right.  3.6:1
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2020, 12:02:37 AM »

One good thing about the M and T geared reels is that you can use a jigmaster 500/501 gear set as replacement without any adjustments.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 08:05:07 AM »

One good thing about the M and T geared reels is that you can use a jigmaster 500/501 gear set as replacement without any adjustments.

That's great to know Bryan!  Can you also replace the five the one gears with stock Jigmaster gears?  I don't think there's anything else different between the F and the M besides the gears.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2020, 01:59:04 PM »

One good thing about the M and T geared reels is that you can use a jigmaster 500/501 gear set as replacement without any adjustments.

That's great to know Bryan!  Can you also replace the five the one gears with stock Jigmaster gears?  I don't think there's anything else different between the F and the M besides the gears.

Hi Randy,

The 505/506 main gear is replaceable.  The pinion gear, you will need to take the flange ring off the pinion gear and braze it to the Penn 505/506 pinion gear.  The ring on the 505/506 is too small and will not fit over the engagement shaft of the spool.

I'll take a photo of it later to show a comparison.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2020, 03:04:23 PM »

Thanks for the info Bryan, but those modifications sound like they are way above my pay grade.  I'm thrilled when I manage to put a reel back together and everything works.

What I meant was if you were OK with the stock 4:1 gear ratio, can you put stock Jigmaster gears into an F series 200-400 series Newell?

Thanks again,

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2020, 03:19:58 PM »

One good thing about the M and T geared reels is that you can use a jigmaster 500/501 gear set as replacement without any adjustments.
Would the 500 gear and pinion work on a C229 as well ?
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2020, 03:20:44 PM »

Can't you just leave the ring off, like I see on different Penn pinions?
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2020, 05:07:18 PM »

500 gears are too big and won't fit in the side plates
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2020, 06:30:48 PM »

Thanks for the info Bryan, but those modifications sound like they are way above my pay grade.  I'm thrilled when I manage to put a reel back together and everything works.

What I meant was if you were OK with the stock 4:1 gear ratio, can you put stock Jigmaster gears into an F series 200-400 series Newell?

Thanks again,

Randy
Yes, the Penn 500/501 gear set (main + pinion) will work in place of the 5:1 gear ratio Newell gear set without any modifications.
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