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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2020, 07:54:54 PM »

1st time posting, but have really enjoyed reading and learning since finding this site.

I bought my father an OC reel as a Father’s Day gift a few years ago, and it looks good in the old OC box on the mantle at my parent’s home in Ocean City, NJ.  The reel is the Ocean City 970.  Common reel, lots around, but the really good condition box is what made the piece for my parents.

But, I bought myself an OC reel at the same time, and I haven’t been able to find many details or any pictures of this reel.  I bought it because it reminded me of a Penn Senator, and I knew that Otto Henze had worked for Ocean City before founding Penn.  Hoping this group can help me learn more about this reel.

My best guess is that the reel is a used “New” Ocean City reel, #114.  The number 400 is on the reel foot.  The ORCA site doesn’t have any pictures of the 400 size reel though, so I am basing my guess on old catalogues.

I’d really like to learn more above it the history of this reel, so all info is welcomed.  Thanks.



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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2020, 09:01:03 PM »

Welcome aboard, Steven!

There are a few OC experts around.

One of the best is Mike Cacioppo -- one of our members.

He recently authored a book about Ocean City.

This would help you to gain the best information about your reels.

Best,

Fred



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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2020, 11:11:44 PM »

It's early.  That handle was only made until about 1935.  It has the then new quick take apart feature.

Mike's book is down in the workshop but I can try to see if it has more information tomorrow.'

This brings up sensitive point though.  Should I quote Mike's book here and possibly make him miss a sale?  Everyone who collects or is interested in old reels should get it anyway.  Not only does it get down in the weeds about all the different OC models, it is a great history lesson that provides insight into the whole industry.

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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2020, 06:32:32 AM »

Howzit?, Mapmaker. Never knew before that OC had the quick take apart feature on the head-plate. Got a late '30's Penn Silver Beach with that system. Love to see how the OC differs from the Penn design.
Excellent point Steve, gotta consider the small business aspect of members here.
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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2020, 08:53:37 AM »

We are fortunate that someone with Mike's credentials and expertise would take this project on of cataloging and organizing this fascinating history of Ocean City Reels.

An author's work should be both credited and modestly rewarded.  As long as the work is still available for sale.  If it was no longer available -- that would be a different matter.

This is a work that obviously took thousands of hours of work, tremendous organization, plus experience and knowledge that a price cannot be put on.

The reason I mentioned this new book -- is because I felt that Mapmaker is the sincere type of person who would appreciate and benefit from this information that is only available in tiny bits and pieces in other places.

IMO, It is a matter of respect and honoring an author's hard work that is made available to us lowly "reel nerds".

I am certainly grateful for others work...

Mike's works are not going to put his kids through college, or pay off a mortgage -- but we need to realize how fortunate we are to be able to learn a little of what he knows and is willing to share.

300+ pages, 500+ photos, commentary, tremendous effort & results.

Best, Fred

  


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« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2020, 09:42:54 AM »

 I have the 250 .    Mine  has a retainer clip for the take apart screw .   The difference between Oc and Penn locking lugs .
Oc is more pronounced , and penn mirrored the lugs .


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« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2020, 11:02:34 AM »

Both  Mapmaker's and Oldmanjoe's reels are the very earliest of those versions since they are Both pat. pend. and Great Reels not in my collection ........YET >
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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2020, 05:52:40 PM »

Thank you everyone for the responses.

While researching my reel, I did find Mr. Cacioppo’s book available through Whitefish Press prior to posting here.  This is the only OC reel in my possession, and I’m not in the market for others presently.  But, I do understand the conflict of morality of sharing something you learned from a book when you know the author, or at least have traded messages with him via a website.  I am not asking anyone to share info they believe is inappropriate to share. 

My own research continues, so I’ll share what I learned today.

The 400 yard capacity “New” Ocean City doesn’t appear in the 1930 catalogue.  The reel first appears in the 1931 catalogue as far as I can tell. The Bakelite on the ‘31 reels is supposed to be brown, and mine is black.

The Ocean City Manufacturing Company filed for a patent of their free spool technology May 2, 1932.  Their free spool technology had been in use for years at that point, which makes me wonder if filing the patent had to do with the founding of Penn that same year.  The patent was granted on April 25, 1933.

Since the patent wasn’t filed until ‘32, I suppose the ‘31 and early ‘32 versions of this reel wouldn’t mention patent pending, but that is a guess.  And since the patent was granted in ‘33, I would guess that the late ‘33 and ‘34 or later models might not include patent pending.  As a result, I’m guessing the reel was built in 1932 or 1933. 

Still lots of unanswered questions remain...


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« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2020, 09:43:06 PM »

The 400 yard capacity “New” Ocean City doesn’t appear in the 1930 catalogue.  The reel first appears in the 1931 catalogue as far as I can tell. The Bakelite on the ‘31 reels is supposed to be brown, and mine is black.

The Ocean City Manufacturing Company filed for a patent of their free spool technology May 2, 1932.  Their free spool technology had been in use for years at that point, which makes me wonder if filing the patent had to do with the founding of Penn that same year.  The patent was granted on April 25, 1933.

Since the patent wasn’t filed until ‘32, I suppose the ‘31 and early ‘32 versions of this reel wouldn’t mention patent pending, but that is a guess.  And since the patent was granted in ‘33, I would guess that the late ‘33 and ‘34 or later models might not include patent pending.  As a result, I’m guessing the reel was built in 1932 or 1933. 

Good job.  You don't need a book  Wink
-steve
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