alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Spooling around
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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2020, 06:47:39 PM »

 I like the drag you did under the spool and copied it .   Still working on making it fit under the stock bail assembly .
 I still like oil lite bushings in the spool .
  As of now i am playing with cork , gasket material .     The problem with cork is that it is so thick .065 -  1.65mm  .    Takes up valuable space were carbon fiber will be easy to fit on a already tall spool  .    It takes  time to fine tune home made parts. Grin


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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2020, 07:17:00 PM »

  With the idea of making a bigger spool to help with the hour glass effect , i went back to the stock spool configuration and though how to make the reel think the spool was taller .     Change the oscillating stroke !    I moved the crank pin closer to center by .070 .  The first 2 picture is the stock stroke with the hour glass .   The 3 picture is the first try spooling with a gess at shims .     i see a improvement      4 picture is the  gear .


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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2020, 05:58:36 AM »

You can replace the cork with a thinner sheet of carbontex, but then you need to add a thin stainless steel pad under the spool and fix it (you can use epoxy glue, resistant to high temperatures).
My choice was cork because it is easy to obtain and I am convinced that it has better characteristics than carbontex for my needs.

The solution with moving the pin on the main gear is the only possible solution and you did a great job!

Once upon a time I had the idea to add a ball bearing to that pin but it's a long story...

The only thing I would do now on the 330N and 331N is to achieve silent braking on the rotor. It requires good planning and a little more experimentation. Of course, I do not intend to insert one-way bearing. I'll try something else ...
Think about it and let's come to a solution together!
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2021, 10:19:33 PM »

   Spun another spool from billet for a 331n model  ,all one piece with a bottom plate for a large cork drag washer and a small cork top drag washer .
    Just another combination to try out !!


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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2021, 07:39:35 AM »

I believe, a winning combination!
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2021, 06:21:20 AM »

   Back at it again , I needed a spool for a 440 . I pretty much duplicated a plastic spool .
  I did stretched the length another  .060 for braid .


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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2021, 01:54:49 PM »

That is just plain awesome Joe! Cool
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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2021, 10:35:45 PM »

That is just plain awesome Joe! Cool

     Thank You

    I was able to finish up the spool today .  made a few adjustment to get line lay and kept the drags simple   


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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2021, 01:27:44 PM »

Good work! Consider a larger carbontex washer ...
Carbontex knows that it consumes a little more friction surfaces. When it is saturated with aluminum (and this can happen quickly due to the softness of the aluminum) it can change its characteristics. That’s why my choice was cork.
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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2021, 03:10:56 PM »

Good work! Consider a larger carbontex washer ...
Carbontex knows that it consumes a little more friction surfaces. When it is saturated with aluminum (and this can happen quickly due to the softness of the aluminum) it can change its characteristics. That’s why my choice was cork.
       I was thinking about that .   I went with the idea that the clicker only has less than 1 square inch of surface area and i wanted to try this new carbon fiber out .   IT is not as flexible as what i have used in the past and feels slicker .   I am trying this material dry .      First test looks good !!!!


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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2021, 03:36:01 PM »

That is really some outstanding work and skill, Joe!

Best, Fred
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2021, 04:28:03 PM »

i am impressed with your updated Equipment .
Much Fancier than your other Rig Roll Eyes

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2021, 04:54:36 PM »

Joe, that's some great work- so great, I'd collectively send the spools to be anodized. True boutique level custom righ there. Of course clear/ silver looks stock, but dang, a red one would pop....and highight your work.

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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2021, 06:10:54 PM »

Joe,
Really great work- love seeing such innovation on the old Quicks and your other projects.  Now if you just start making metal spools for the 220…

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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2021, 10:45:35 PM »

 Smiley  Just up loaded a video ,  The drag is around 5-6 pounds on a solid fiber glass stick , the load and unload is the stick with a smooth drag done with 2 pulls .   
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 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare
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