alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Need advice
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »



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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2021, 09:02:34 PM »

Great input and advice guys. 

Ok so I have a game plan forming in my beer soaked brain.....I would love a Torque but don’t think I can justify the price at this time, the flaws in the Fathom don’t seem to be fatal, a set back yes but not fatal, I think the 2 speed is more important than the limited drag.....maybe Penn figured it out by now. 

The 25NLD2 is top of the list and a 40LD2 is there also.....wondering if Charkbait would provide a deal on two rigs 🤔too bad the SOA trip is not happening this year it would be nice to try all the different gear.

So time to rethink my line up.....as the Terminator said “Ill be back.....”. 😎


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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2021, 09:15:17 PM »


.... The 25NLD2 is top of the list and a 40LD2 is there also.....wondering if Charkbait would provide a deal on two rigs 🤔too bad the SOA trip is not happening this year it would be nice to try all the different gear....

 


     Tell Mark  " Jeff From Kansas " said, your worthy & he should give you great deal. That will at least make him smile & maybe soften him up a bit  Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2021, 02:40:26 AM »

Bill,

First you should look at the type of trip your looking to do. A 5-6 day trip will in most part be very different from a 7-8 day. Now a 5-6 dayer will most likely head to the Lupe (Gaudalupe Island) if the boat has permits where mid sized YFT are found along with yellowtail and sometimes wahoo. At he Lupe it is beat the shark type of fishing meaning the gray suites will wait by sportfishers looking for the dinner bell to ring, yep your hooked fish close to the boat to eat it. Larger tackle is need here. IMO a minimum of 40 lb test toppers to around 80 lb is what I would take.

A 7-8 day trip are what I call a verity type trip, meaning usually schoolie sized tuna both YFT and BFT, yellowtail, wahoo, dorado and more will be on the list of likely catches. On these trips a wider range of tackle is needed anywhere from 25-30 lb to 80 lb is what I would like to have. On these trips 40 lb is what will be used the most and I like to have a backup in this line class. So, the 25nld2 fits great here with 60-65 braid backing you should get around 300 yards with a 25 yard topper or more. The Baja setup with the same 60-65 lb braid backing and a 40 lb topper as a backup so your golden at 40 lb. You may want to extend the handle arm on the Baja Special to it's longer setting for better cranking power.

Now a 25-30 lb setup will be used for kelp paddy fishing, dorado and yellowtail for the most part and to make bait if needed. Is a two speed needed here? Not really IMO but if you hook into something on the larger size it is nice to have.

20-25 lb test? Well on these trips I'd leave it at home. Why? Smaller game is not the target and if the boat does stop on fish that aren't willing to bite most likely they will move quickly looking for willing biters. Thinking again I may bring it just in case.

Now a 50-60 lb setup I would not leave the dock without one, yes a two speeded reel is the way to go. IMO the fathom 40nld2 works fine here. Do you really need to go from 30% at strike to 50% at full? I know Alan likes that and that's cool but ask captains of sportfishing boats if they think it is good to go with that much drag at the end of a fight where pulled or straitened hooks can happen. Everyone can fish how they like but for me I will not push a reel to 50% of the lines breaking strength even at the Lupe with the beat the shark issue.

Where your most lacking is in your 80-100 lb setup. A Penn VISX 16 is what you may want to look at, since you said you like Penn. For me I'd go with a Okuma Sea 16 because I like their gearing a bit better for this line test. But, how often will you use a setup like this? If not much get a loaner setup from the boat, rent from the landing or borrow one if you can. Most boats that do trips like this have fine loaner tackle or the landings have good rentals when going with this size of gear. This will save you a lot if you don't plan on doing many trips like this. With that money saved you could add a day or three to your trip if you wanted without coming out of pocket for more.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2021, 07:14:30 PM »

Jeff, please dont wait on me....if you already have a buyer ....Bill
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2021, 05:04:58 AM »

SoCalAngler summed it up perfectly and take to heart... the last sentence. There's nothing better than fishing relaxed, Knowing you have plenty of time to find that epic bite or overcome a few bad knots, lost fish, or an off day. Time is on your side and you may have such an epic trip that you plug the freezer!who knows?!I don't have any two speeds, but like you I have a lot of built up Penn's ready to go. I live in Dana Point and I believe that's on your way down to San Diego from Crestline. You're welcome to borrow any of them as backups if you decide to go longer. I've never been on a fishing trip that was too long, but I've been on plenty that I wish were a couple of days longer.   
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