Airex Reels Bache Brown Master Reel Model 4

Started by Schrack, April 24, 2021, 03:45:52 AM

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Schrack

If I can't get bail off reel can' t be repaired.
What can I use?
Pin has threads right.
So I should have something that will work 12 point small socket!
Now does this go left to loosen?
I don't want to break it.
Reel is not complicated just differant .

Schrack

Well finally got apart, now big problem, looks like a double spring both held in with one screw.
One spring goes thru and holds bail, that one is broke.
Other one goes under, have not figured out what it does?
Set up is different from 1/2 bail.
Think this has potential for lamp.
Took a break from babysitting bad guys this week, will work on reel and figure it out.

Schrack

Well Reel is operating fine have everything fixed but bail.
The Spring and set up are really different on model 4' s.
Looks like a double spring that is guided into slots and holes, which lock and release bail.
The Spinster is a little like Mitchell set up, utilize one spring on inside of spool housing can make them.
, no problem.
Does anyone have any info on Master Reel Model 4?
The Spinster I just received is like new inside and out even lived is still stiff to use.
I know eventually I will figure these out.
Thanks for all Help and info so far.
From looks I would say Model 4 Master Reel has bail issues.

Snuffysmif

Does anyone have pictures (or can take pictures) of the "special tool"?

Schrack

Need photo or some kind of blueprint for Master Reel bail spring set up.

Schrack

Small needle nose vise grips will get it out, just put pressure on it and turn counter clock wise.
Also small 12 pointed socket would work.

Schrack

Well received another model 4, sad to say spring was missing from reel.
Did see how the crazy thing works, but need to see actual spring in one piece.
Does anyone have a photo or schematic of Master Reel Model 4 (full bail).
Seems like the spring was down fall of that model.
Have tool to make springs once I figure it out.
The Spinster which I have 2 that function, seem to be a super reel.
Springs in those I can make.
Sometimes I wish people would not give me stuff! Becomes a quest to repair And get working.
Hey I am slot ahead on this project and am sure I will Prevail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gfish

Cool! Stamina baby!
Maybe 2/3 of my initial failures have been overcome by leaving it for a bit, doing some thinking and then returning to it and trying something new. Sometimes I succeed and don't know exactly which thing I did worked; "brute force and/or ignorance". The other 1/3 become part reels.
Your Masterreel just isn't that common which makes it a real challenge.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

Wompus Cat

#23
Some of those Airex are similar to Roddy or visa /versa
Here is a link to  some Schematics of the Rody's archived on Fishing Talks Blog I found MIGHT shed some light on that SPRING .

LOOKY HERE

Scroll to top of page I linked to .

I have several of those Reels but danged if I can find them lately .
If a Grass Hopper Carried a Shotgun then the Birds wouldn't MESS with Him

jtwill98

Quote from: Schrack on May 08, 2021, 02:53:23 PMWell received another model 4, sad to say spring was missing from reel.
Did see how the crazy thing works, but need to see actual spring in one piece.
Does anyone have a photo or schematic of Master Reel Model 4 (full bail).
Seems like the spring was down fall of that model.

I acquired a Mastereel Model 4 full-bail and the spring was mangled. I flatten it out but I haven't been able to determine how it goes back in or if it requires any bends.


sandbar


jtwill98

Quote from: sandbar on March 16, 2024, 06:59:29 PMIS this what you are looking for?

Thank you Sandman for the schematic, it is helpful. 

Because the Bail Roller Cap (330-65) was broken and the Roller-Bail (330-62) and Spring (311-30) were missing, I decided to make a manual pickup (PUM) for this reel.

It's not worth the effort to me to restore this reel -- it being plastic with the spool chrome flaking off and these issues.  If I can make a PUM work, it can be bank fishing reel.

sandbar

Quote from: jtwill98 on March 16, 2024, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: sandbar on March 16, 2024, 06:59:29 PMIS this what you are looking for?

Thank you Sandman for the schematic, it is helpful. 

Because the Bail Roller Cap (330-65) was broken and the Roller-Bail (330-62) and Spring (311-30) were missing, I decided to make a manual pickup (PUM) for this reel.

It's not worth the effort to me to restore this reel -- it being plastic with the spool chrome flaking off and these issues.  If I can make a PUM work, it can be bank fishing reel.

Good deal JT.
I posted the entire Airex Instruction manual on the site.
Just type "Airex" in the search function and you will see it.
Good luck!
-Steve

jtwill98

I was out in the shop and had a look through some parts boxes (I only have 2 shoe boxes) and found an old reel bail which was rusty but looked like it could work. 

I cut the piece off that I thought I could use from the bail wire (remaining bail wire in first picture), buffed off the rust did a little work on cleaning up the point and attached it as shown in the photos.

I think this will work just fine for fishing from the water's edge.