Best knot for braid to swivel on leader

Started by RUSTY OLD COLT, June 20, 2021, 12:29:28 PM

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RUSTY OLD COLT

 I have recently switch to 10 and 15 pound braid for fluke fishing on Long Island and have been having a lot of problems with the knot slipping at the swivel which did not happen with 20 pound braid . Any suggestions ? I mainly use power pro braid .

Tiddlerbasher


philaroman

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used to double-up for uni or go through eye twice for palomar -- worked OK, too bulky, too many tag ends
like Fish-N-Fool much better for small/quick/symmetrical knot in un-doubled lighter braid
just go through the eye twice, then uni...  up to 8 turns for extra thin/slippery braid (maybe only 5 if it's heavier & slightly worn)

CHEAP OLD SOB BONUS:  sometimes you want to trim many feet of worn braid intentionally
sometimes it's fine & you don't want to loose 6" every time you retie
w/ a little practice you can get the tag end down to <1/2" -- no cutting / straight to fire-trim

oc1

After you get it sorted out, you could try tying the braid directly to the leader using an FG knot.

MarkT

The lighter the line, the more turns in the knot.
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Ron Jones

Quote from: MarkT on June 20, 2021, 08:03:29 PM
The lighter the line, the more turns in the knot.

This,

I use the good old Trilene knot for most anything, and a surgeon's loop for attaching a some jigs and swivels. With 15 pound braid I would use no less that 12 turns for the Trilene and 3 passes for the surgeon's loop, 4 is probably better.
Ronald Jones
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conchydong

I am also a Palomar knot fan for tying braid to a swivel. Never had one fail.

Gfish

A granny knot in the tag-end of whatever main knot you choose. Pull the granny tight up against the main knot, then trim right-up against the granny.
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gstours

Thanks for the granny knot tip.   What can it hert! :).   Good luck everyone

boon

My 2c... just don't ever tie braid directly to terminal tackle.

FG or PR to leader, or a bimini for loop-to-loop with a wind-on if you're using heavy tackle. Then whatever knot you like onto your terminal tackle.

If you have to tie a granny knot in your tag end to stop your knot falling apart, then it isn't a good knot.

JoseCuervo

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Quote from: boon on June 23, 2021, 09:07:04 PM
My 2c... just don't ever tie braid directly to terminal tackle.


Can you elaborate on why knot :) ? Thanks, I do, but would like to know more!

Rob

philaroman

ditto...  if abrasion at terminal end is not a concern
and I get all the shock absorption I need from longer, more moderate rod,
I rather like BRAID-TO-SWIVEL, then leader

boon

Quote from: JoseCuervo on June 23, 2021, 11:59:51 PM
Quote from: boon on June 23, 2021, 09:07:04 PM
My 2c... just don't ever tie braid directly to terminal tackle.


Can you elaborate on why knot :) ? Thanks, I do, but would like to know more!

Rob

Braid has a nasty habit of cutting into itself when it's really cinched down on. The braid-to-leader knots that are any good are made in such a way that you never really have braid pulling hard against braid; they use lots of wraps around the leader instead.
Might be OK with heavy braid but if you're fishing in, say, 15-20lb territory the braid is so thin that it gets really slicy.

Ron Jones

I caught about 20 ling cod and a couple halibut last week that were not so happy that 65# braid to swivel works.

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Ronald Jones
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Gfish

I use the granny on mono too. You can leave the whole knot somewhat loose and let the fish pull it tight, then check and re-tie if the braid got too tight. Difficult to "tie-on-the-fly",  but you can double the braid, add the tag-end granny, then tie.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!