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« on: October 07, 2021, 07:48:54 PM »

I have a few Penn Z-series Spinfisher reels that I am breaking down and cleaning, etc.
What is the best lubricant to use to lubricate the pinion bearing?
I have blue Penn grease, Cal's, Rem Oil, Reel-X and Penn Silicote Reel Lube.
I read where some mix the grease with a lighter lubricant but I would like opinions.

Thanks, Garry
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2021, 08:11:57 PM »

Any spinner that I service for use in salt water I use Yamaha lube on all of the bearings. Light fresh water use just use a little corrosion X.


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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2021, 08:12:18 PM »

I think there is a lot of personal preference in the choice depending on how you want the reel to feel.  Smoothness is not the Spinfisher's strong suit so grease will smother it some.  Light oil will make it crank a little easier.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2021, 08:28:18 PM »

Corrosion X in every bearing I have. And there are hundreds.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2021, 09:47:29 PM »

I think there is a lot of personal preference in the choice depending on how you want the reel to feel.  Smoothness is not the Spinfisher's strong suit so grease will smother it some.  Light oil will make it crank a little easier.

That's kind of what I was thinking about personal preference - I want the feel to be as smooth and easy as possible, but not too 'gritty' using light oil, if that makes any sense.
What about a mix of the Reel X and the blue grease? As long as the two mix well together there shouldn't be any harm correct?
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2021, 11:33:20 PM »

Yes you can add a little oil to the grease for those bearings and that reel. Penn blue isn’t very thick to start with.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 11:40:00 PM »

I think there is a lot of personal preference in the choice depending on how you want the reel to feel.  Smoothness is not the Spinfisher's strong suit so grease will smother it some.  Light oil will make it crank a little easier.

That's kind of what I was thinking about personal preference - I want the feel to be as smooth and easy as possible, but not too 'gritty' using light oil, if that makes any sense.
What about a mix of the Reel X and the blue grease? As long as the two mix well together there shouldn't be any harm correct?

They do not mix together well.  I do not understand gritty from using light oil.  If your bearings are gritty, they may be pitted.  If you have pitted or low grade bearings, and want smooth, use 30 w non detergent oil.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 02:50:40 AM »

I actually just finished doing a really nice 714Z that looks like it was used maybe twice if that, then stowed away for a few decades. As you can imagine the inside was full of old hardened grease (I could tell because it felt like it had molasses in it), so after a complete disassembly and cleaning I used Penn blue grease on the gears and main gear shaft, oil on the anti reverse mechanism. Then I mixed a little grease with a drop of teflon oil and brushed it on the spool shaft (please don't ask for an explanation - I did it because I thought it was a good idea  Wink. Cal's tan grease in the drag layers and oil in the exterior moving parts and this is essentially a NOS reel. Didn't even have to mess with the bail assembly.

As for the gritty description maybe I used the wrong word. "Not smooth enough" is what i really should have said.

What is the spool shaft supposed to get lubed with oil or grease?

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 03:15:06 AM »

Any synthetic oil is best for the spool shafts — grease will work, but will slow down the reel — and eventually will bind up.

Best, Fred
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 03:20:24 AM »

Any synthetic oil is best for the spool shafts — grease will work, but will slow down the reel — and eventually will bind up.

Best, Fred

Thanks Fred, I'll do that for the other Spinfishers I am working on.

By the way I used only Reel-X on the pinion bearing. Spins like a top.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 03:58:07 PM »

Oil on bearings (I like TSI321), grease on gears.

Grease used to be put on ball bearings in the early days when manufacturing tolerances were looser, to intentionally slow them down to prevent them from overheating. Bearings are more precise these days, so there's no need for grease for that purpose. There's nothing wrong with using grease though if thats what people prefer. Great way to prolong service life between cleanings, but it's not the way to reach max performance.

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