Everol 12/20 "waterproof"

Started by JasonGotaProblem, March 25, 2022, 12:01:08 PM

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handi2

#15
Bronze gears will strip out. That's why they make stainless steel upgraded gears,

It looks more like nickel plated steel to me,

Jason check it with a magnet and you will know.

Keith
OCD Reel Service & Repair
Gulf Breeze, FL

jurelometer

#16
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on April 25, 2022, 10:12:50 PMIf I had a problem with brass or bronze I'd have a problem with a lot of awesome reels with reliable gears. My issue is with the plating, for reasons I think I learned from you. Either way I'm looking forward to fishing it.

Something about that chrome plating was making the back of my brain itch, but couldn't remember why.  And not chroming an internal part is cheaper than chroming, so there must be a reason. 

Used the interwebs to look it up.  There is decorative chroming and hard chroming.  Hard chroming is used to make a tougher, lower friction, non-galling surface on mechanical parts.  For big expensive machinery, worn mechanical parts are sometimes reconditioned by  hard chroming and then ground back down to spec. The bore of some firearms are hard chromed.

If the gear is indeed chromed bronze,  I would probably chalk it up as a case of design overkill, as opposed to something cheesy and cheap.

At the risk of re-beating a dead horse, I don't think it is  correct to keep lumping bronze and brass together. Or to dismiss all bronze alloys as inferior materials.

Bronze is a wide range of copper alloys, usually containing some tin.  There is bronze and there is bronze... The best bronze alloys (check out aluminum bronze) when properly tempered combine both toughness/hardness in the same ballpark as some carbon steels plus very good  saltwater corrosion resistance, and a low coefficient of friction.  Here is a comparison of 316  stainless and aluminum bronze: https://www.makeitfrom.com/compare/AISI-316-S31600-Stainless-Steel/UNS-C95300-Aluminum-Bronze

Brass is a primarily a copper/zinc alloy that is quite soft, and not that great over time in terms of saltwater corrosion, as the zinc content gets leached out sort of like a sacrificial anode. Or something like that...

-J

handi2

OCD Reel Service & Repair
Gulf Breeze, FL

jurelometer

#18
Quote from: handi2 on April 26, 2022, 05:04:35 AMHere it is.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze

And another..

No mention of firearms.

I think they are hard chrome plating the bore of a steel barrel, not making a bronze barrel and chroming it.  The chrome is supposed to wear better.   Also don't know how common it is.  I am not a gun guy.

 I gotta put my money on Robert when it comes to  anything to do with Everol.  But the magnet test is a good idea.

-J

JasonGotaProblem

Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

JasonGotaProblem

The everol finally has a worthy home. At least I think so.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

steelfish

i like it, specially the thin gold ring on the rear grip
The Baja Guy

JasonGotaProblem

I'm still trying to decide if I like that band. I wanted a bit longer rear grip, and the material above the band is a bit softer EVA for a better feel in hand (with hard EVA below for better rod holder protection) and i had to do something about the transition. That's what I settled on. Time will tell if it was a good idea.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.