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Started by Scattergun2570, September 19, 2022, 07:37:10 AM

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Scattergun2570

A while back I saw a list of designations that Abu uses on their reels posted here. One of the was "CB" ,which according to the post means "Self centering disengaging levelwind"... Can someone explain what this means?

Wompus Cat

They made that for about 10 or 12 years.
Ocean City had the the 944 which had a disengage of the level Wind in the 50's . It was an actual mechanical disengagement when put in Free Spool and I think Abu's you had to move the line guide barrel where the pawl was down to disengage the pawl . Will have to dif on of mine out and refresh my post . The thought behind this was
When you cast  it the Level wind actually disengages and does not move back and forth till you re engage the pinion out of Free Spool . This was suppose to increase the casting distance by taking the Friction of the level wind gears away   Abu as I recall had a lot of problems with their version  it seems like and did a few mods .THe least amount of dirt or corrosion would throw a wrench in der Sprigenwerks and a lot of plastic in it .
 Shimano ,Daiwa  .and a few others have reels with this feature on them as well.
Some say they are Rare .
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Scattergun2570

Quote from: Wompus Cat on September 19, 2022, 01:03:38 PMThey made that for about 10 or 12 years.
Ocean City had the the 944 which had a disengage of the level Wind in the 50's . It was an actual mechanical disengagement when put in Free Spool and I think Abu's you had to move the line guide barrel where the pawl was down to disengage the pawl . Will have to dif on of mine out and refresh my post . The thought behind this was
When you cast  it the Level wind actually disengages and does not move back and forth till you re engage the pinion out of Free Spool . This was suppose to increase the casting distance by taking the Friction of the level wind gears away   Abu as I recall had a lot of problems with their version  it seems like and did a few mods .THe least amount of dirt or corrosion would throw a wrench in der Sprigenwerks and a lot of plastic in it .
 Shimano ,Daiwa  .and a few others have reels with this feature on them as well.
Some say they are Rare .

Ok,the self centering part threw me off,,saw this last night so it got me poking around.

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nelz

This reel has the standard syncronized levelwind of round Abu's. It's basically a C3 except for the gear ratio and thumb bar.

Scattergun2570

Quote from: nelz on September 19, 2022, 07:13:37 PMThis reel has the standard syncronized levelwind of round Abu's. It's basically a C3 except for the gear ratio and thumb bar.

Do you think the thumb bar has more issues than the standard release lever?

thorhammer

Quote from: Scattergun2570 on September 20, 2022, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: nelz on September 19, 2022, 07:13:37 PMThis reel has the standard syncronized levelwind of round Abu's. It's basically a C3 except for the gear ratio and thumb bar.

Do you think the thumb bar has more issues than the standard release lever?

IMO yes. I've had issues with 56XX and promax's popping into gear into a hard cast.

nelz

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Quote from: Scattergun2570 on September 20, 2022, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: nelz on September 19, 2022, 07:13:37 PMThis reel has the standard syncronized levelwind of round Abu's. It's basically a C3 except for the gear ratio and thumb bar.

Do you think the thumb bar has more issues than the standard release lever?

I actually have never owned one, but looks like Mr. Thor has answered your quesrtion already.

0119

I had a buddy who used two 4500CB's from the 80's. The non engaging levelwind feature was perported by Abu, to increase casting distance. I can say I agree with that as they seemed to be amazing casting machines. They never gave him any failures and caught some huge Snook. I've never had a problem with an Ambassadeurs thumb bar that wasn't caused by human error on reassembly.

Shellbelly

ABU's are amazing....until you get them dirty.  My thumb bar issues, when they happen, always happen when wade fishing deep surf.  On dry land or shallow wading, flawless.

nelz

Quote from: 0119 on September 22, 2022, 03:28:29 PMI had a buddy who used two 4500CB's from the 80's. The non engaging levelwind feature was perported by Abu, to increase casting distance.

Are you saying the line guide doesn't move when in free-spool?  I looked at the schem for the Ambassadeur 5601 CB and it looks like it's synchronized. Perhaps the 4500CB is different?

0119

Quote from: nelz on September 23, 2022, 04:49:56 AM
Quote from: 0119 on September 22, 2022, 03:28:29 PMI had a buddy who used two 4500CB's from the 80's. The non engaging levelwind feature was perported by Abu, to increase casting distance.

Are you saying the line guide doesn't move when in free-spool?  I looked at the schem for the Ambassadeur 5601 CB and it looks like it's synchronized. Perhaps the 4500CB is different?
Right it didn't move in free spool. Now, I'm talking about CB as it was originally configured/designated. If I recall it right, CB could have also been used decades later to signify a model made in a "lot" for a big box retailer like Kmart Walmart or Cabela's.