Spooling braid onto a reel

Started by alantani, December 09, 2022, 06:44:00 PM

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alantani

It's a three step process. First, clean up the spool with a greasy toothbrush.  I am less concerned with what grease you use and more concerned that you just use something.  And that something does not include car wax. I'm not sure who first came up with the car wax idea, but let's just use grease. When it comes to corrosion resistance,  I'd trust the guys at Yamaha Marine before the guys that make Turtle Wax.

Second, put a couple of layers of tape on the arbor. I use flex wrap. You can use anything you want,  just use something,  anything. 

And third, load the braid under tension.  I figure out what the drag at strike will be and then set the line tensioner to two thirds of that drag at strike.  The math is easy.  The actual process is not. Most shops struggle to get any tension at all. Some shops don't even try. If you don't,  the braid will dig in and lock. Loose braid will also allow salt water in.

This is what I've been dealing with all morning. 
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alantani

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Gfish

Copy that.
Tried car wax. Didn't cover anodized aluminum, chromed brass, or stainless steel, very well. Went to marine grease. M g wont emulsify if the braid is tight enough to keep out saltwater. Last part of flange I keep dry where the last 100yds of braid or mono is. Superstitious about the grease smell scaring away bites.
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jurelometer

If I may be allowed to ask an impertinent question:

How certain are you that your method is the best one, or just one that you have  developed high confidence in?  I do it a bit differently, and would like to see if I should change.

Multiple layers of carnuba wax (aluminum spools) and the Jerry Brown Line method for multiple wraps on the arbor knot and wrapping over the tag works for me, and I put some hours on my reels.  But it is a small sample size.

I have learned from mold making that it takes multiple layers of wax and a good rub down to form a complete film that  gets into pores, so it may not be practical for filling customer reels  in a short window of time.  But the advantage of wax is that it stays where you put it, where grease is mobile.

Similarly, I have been unable to make a line tied with JB arbor knot slip with just a few wraps, or a full spool.  The line breaks first.  But then I am not smearing grease all over my arbor either :)

Thanks!

-J

alantani

oh, i'm good with anything you want to do.  i just go for overkill here.  that way i know there will not be a problem.  i'm sending these reels off into the cold cruel world and i want to make sure they survive. 
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handi2

I use the Jerry Brown method of tying the braid to the spool. It works...

My problem is that most braided line manufacturers don't have the filler spool line tight enough. The braid digs into the filler spool.

I use the Triangle HD140
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alantani

for me, all of the jerry brown bulk spools have been tight enough except one.  learned my lesson there.  it dug in and the line was lost.  ever since then, i always set the drag on the reel tight enough to spool the line but not tight enough to break it. 
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MexicanGulf

#7
Interesting, I've never read anything on the subject. I use 22lbs on strike. do i have to wind the braid on my reels with how much pull?

alantani

well, 2/3rds would be 14 pounds of tension.  hopefully you have a two speed reel and can crank on the line in low gear.  it will take a while, but it would be much easier.  what reel are you using?  what weight braid?  what topshot?
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boon

With a game reel, if you're planning on filling it to the brim... just be wary of not being able to get the line back on the reel if you bust off with a lot out.

MexicanGulf

Quote from: alantani on January 02, 2023, 03:27:33 AMwell, 2/3rds would be 14 pounds of tension.  hopefully you have a two speed reel and can crank on the line in low gear.  it will take a while, but it would be much easier.  what reel are you using?  what weight braid?  what topshot?

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MexicanGulf

Quote from: alantani on January 02, 2023, 03:27:33 AMwell, 2/3rds would be 14 pounds of tension.  hopefully you have a two speed reel and can crank on the line in low gear.  it will take a while, but it would be much easier.  what reel are you using?  what weight braid?  what topshot?

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alantani

this reel holds 700 yards of 130 pound braid and perhaps 1200 yards of 80 pound braid.  you're going to be cranking all day. 
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