lubricants

Started by alantani, December 07, 2008, 05:40:30 PM

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Lunker Larry

Does it have fumes that will kill you? lol  I tried Ardent Reel Kleen cleaner in the past. It worked great but the fumes were terrible. Could not use it inside the shop. Even a little spray. Scary stuff. Got rid of it.
You know that moment when your steak is on the grill and you can already feel your mouth watering.
Do vegans feel the same when mowing the lawn?

alantani

when i'm working with oils from a dropper bottle or greases from a tub, i don't worry about fumes to much with the stuff that i have.  when i'm cleaning bearings, i use corrosion x and compressed air to get it to spin, then do the final clean out with carb cleaner and more compressed air to get it perfect.  that means more compressed air that spreads everything.  i do this at an open garage door.  i also wear gloves all the time.  personally, i think that there is no health risk by working with this stuff in this manner.  still, having survived cancer once, i would rather not tempt fate again. 
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

jtwill98

The Mil-Comm TW25B has very little odor.  If it did I wouldn't use it on guns, when I mainly use it on the slide components. 

Cost_spin

Hi guys, I need a good substitute in Europe (EU) of Shimano grease SR-G DG13, for my Shimano Stella FA/SW.
DG13 is no more availabe in all stores I have seen on ebay/Amazon, but only from Japon/Korea at very high cost.
What could I use for maintenance of gears?
A reel service shop sent me the grease (no name) he uses but it's very sticky and the reels I tryed on run badly.

For ball bearings I still use proper shimano oil.

Thanks

Costas

alantani

any marine grease should be fine. 
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

handi2

Quote from: Cost_spin on January 17, 2023, 08:09:13 PMHi guys, I need a good substitute in Europe (EU) of Shimano grease SR-G DG13, for my Shimano Stella FA/SW.
DG13 is no more availabe in all stores I have seen on ebay/Amazon, but only from Japon/Korea at very high cost.
What could I use for maintenance of gears?
A reel service shop sent me the grease (no name) he uses but it's very sticky and the reels I tryed on run badly.

For ball bearings I still use proper shimano oil.

Thanks

Costas


I now use Shimano Premium grease. It's way expensive but goes a long way. It's actually made for the fork bearings in their bicycles. Impervious to salt
OCD Reel Service & Repair
Gulf Breeze, FL

Cost_spin

Quote from: handi2 on January 17, 2023, 11:49:42 PM----
I now use Shimano Premium grease. It's way expensive but goes a long way. It's actually made for the fork bearings in their bicycles. Impervious to salt

good, it's available online here; just to avoid another sticky grease, did you use it on Stellas without problem?

@Alantani: I found this Blu marine grease in the store in my city,
bku_marine_grease_CFG.jpg

The specs say viscosity=5000 cps and consistency NLG=2 :
I don't know about those parameters, do you think that could be a good grease?

Best regards.

Costas

handi2

Quote from: Cost_spin on January 18, 2023, 03:43:11 PM
Quote from: handi2 on January 17, 2023, 11:49:42 PM----
I now use Shimano Premium grease. It's way expensive but goes a long way. It's actually made for the fork bearings in their bicycles. Impervious to salt

good, it's available online here; just to avoid another sticky grease, did you use it on Stellas without problem?

@Alantani: I found this Blu marine grease in the store in my city,
bku_marine_grease_CFG.jpg

The specs say viscosity=5000 cps and consistency NLG=2 :
I don't know about those parameters, do you think that could be a good grease?

Best regards.

Costas

It's very sticky and slick. I'm using it now on 25 Saragosa's, Stradic's and Stella's.

It does not bog down the reels
OCD Reel Service & Repair
Gulf Breeze, FL

jurelometer

NLGI grade and CPS are two measurements of  the thickness of the grease.

The thicker the grease, the more force it will take to displace it, but the less the grease will migrate.

NLGI 2 is the most commonly used and availabile in general, and is what is mostly used on fishing reels. Sometimes thinner greases are used for colder climates and/or lighter spinning reels. Adding (a hopefully compatible) oil to thin the grease to is a common practice here, but you run a greater risk of separation compared to simply purchasing a thinner grade of grease.

Applying less grease will mean less grease to displace when the gears are turning, which should also decrease the amount of force required.

Here is a table that compares NLGI grades to common household products:https://www.thelubricantstore.com/laymans-guide-to-nlgi-grades/

In addition to thickness, greases are formulated to have specific adhesive properties, but I don't think that there is a numerical measurement applied, just a subjective observation.  I would expect that a general purpose grease suitable for small gears and bearings would have the suitable level of adhesion for fishing reels, and you simply select the NLGI grade that meets your needs from there.

Greases can  separate and even become gummy/tacky due to oxidation over time, so a sticky batch of grease could simply  be past its useful life.

Hope this helps,

-J

Cost_spin

Handi and Jurelometer thanks for your esustive answer  :d

Costas

Gfish

Yeah. I was wondering about oxidation with grease.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

jurelometer

Quote from: Gfish on January 19, 2023, 10:29:29 PMYeah. I was wondering about oxidation with grease.

It i probably the property that we should care about the most.  Reels are not very demanding in terms of load or RPMs, so it is probably the exposure to air over time that causes the most degradation.

I was just reading about the how industrial products have an ISO tag, so you can just compare the digits (oxidation resistance, pressure, temp,  water resistance, etc.) against the decode table and know if it is the right grease for the job.

Too bad all the "magic" reel lubricants don't provide this data.  But if they did, we probably wouldn't be paying big bucks for tiny jars, as we would find that there are plenty of equivalent products out there that are much cheaper :)

-J


Midway Tommy

I've noticed that if I happen to leave the cap off my SuperLube tube overnight the next day the grease near the opening is a little stiffer, nothing major, but air exposure definitely makes a difference. Closed up inside a reel shouldn't make a whole lot difference, though, I wouldn't think.
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



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