Fixing a Penn 209

[bestout]

So my friend just gave me his 209 to fix it. So this happen to the sleeve http://i.imgur.com/Blew0ht.jpg  http://i.imgur.com/GlFkyD2.jpg . The other issue was there was no anti reverse what so ever and as soon as i open the reel saw that there wasnt any spring on the dog so my other question will a jigmaster spring by cutting the little ear will it fit on this reel for the anti reverse.

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

Definitely time for a new gear sleeve. I would opt for a SS form Alan.

Cutting the tab off a jigmaster one might work, but that spring is cheap and easy to get if you just want to get the direct replacement.

[Shark Hunter]

Yikes!
Looks like the end of that sleeve was attacked by a pair of vice grips!

[bestout]

Yikes!
Looks like the end of that sleeve was attacked by a pair of vice grips!

Yea i still cant imagine how that was done its like a perfect circle lol 

[bestout]

Definitely time for a new gear sleeve. I would opt for a SS form Alan.

Cutting the tab off a jigmaster one might work, but that spring is cheap and easy to get if you just want to get the direct replacement.

yea ill have to call him tomorrow to see if he wants a ss sleeve

[Keta]

Yikes!
Looks like the end of that sleeve was attacked by a pair of vice grips!

Or a rabid beaver.

[alantani]

stick with a brass 98-155 gear sleeve.  i'll try to find a 209 dog and spring as well.  no need to spend the extra cash for this. 

[bestout]

stick with a brass 98-155 gear sleeve.  i'll try to find a 209 dog and spring as well.  no need to spend the extra cash for this. 

The dog was there just no spring. Dont worry about the dog. And i still have the extra sleeve i bought from you for my squidder,  just that i dont know if he will want the ss sleeve. Let me know how much irs for the spring.  Thanks Alan.

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

stick with a brass 98-155 gear sleeve.  i'll try to find a 209 dog and spring as well.  no need to spend the extra cash for this. 

Only reason I say SS, because if he is chewing on the gear sleeves then the SS might last longer 

[alantani]

stick with a brass 98-155 gear sleeve.  i'll try to find a 209 dog and spring as well.  no need to spend the extra cash for this. 

Only reason I say SS, because if he is chewing on the gear sleeves then the SS might last longer 

true, that.......

[alantani]

joe, send me a pm with your address again and i'll find a spring to send out to you.

[Mic]

Now, let's keep in mind that I'm still learning here. But I think you may want to look closely at the handle and the screw that attaches it to the bridge. That damage looks like it was caused by incorrect drag washer stacking or something that prevented the screw from tightening up completely.

Again, just my uneducated opinion.

Good luck to ya!

Mic

[foakes]

Mic is right about what caused this rounding and gouging -- the handle.

Possibly either the handle hole was too distorted -- and enlarged.

Or the handle nut was loose -- which caused the angler to keep cranking, thus ruining the sleeve end.

New Brass sleeve would be fine for this reel -- providing the handle hole is crisp and not enlarged.

Always important to make sure there is no slop in the handle -- and that the handle is seated firmly as far down and tight as possible -- that is why Penn has used a handle nut lock screw for decades.

A typical scenario involves a star drag not screwed down far enough on the sleeve -- when the handle is attached it impacts the flat of the too high star.  Then when the angler tightens the drag -- they now have a loose handle.  Might not notice it until an issue occurs -- then the sleeve end and possibly the handle become ruined to some extent.

I would suspect that the handle hole on this reel is possibly also ruined enough to where it should not be used.

Best,

Fred

[bestout]

Mic is right about what caused this rounding and gouging -- the handle.

Possibly either the handle hole was too distorted -- and enlarged.

Or the handle nut was loose -- which caused the angler to keep cranking, thus ruining the sleeve end.

New Brass sleeve would be fine for this reel -- providing the handle hole is crisp and not enlarged.

Always important to make sure there is no slop in the handle -- and that the handle is seated firmly as far down and tight as possible -- that is why Penn has used a handle nut lock screw for decades.

A typical scenario involves a star drag not screwed down far enough on the sleeve -- when the handle is attached it impacts the flat of the too high star.  Then when the angler tightens the drag -- they now have a loose handle.  Might not notice it until an issue occurs -- then the sleeve end and possibly the handle become ruined to some extent.

I would suspect that the handle hole on this reel is possibly also ruined enough to where it should not be used.

Best,

Fred

Now, let's keep in mind that I'm still learning here. But I think you may want to look closely at the handle and the screw that attaches it to the bridge. That damage looks like it was caused by incorrect drag washer stacking or something that prevented the screw from tightening up completely.

Again, just my uneducated opinion.

Good luck to ya!

Mic

yea the handle is rounded too but the screw went in fine to the sleeve Alan sent me. I had to replace his handle with a jigmaster one.