How Smoothe is Real Smoothe

[Dawn]

I have some delrin pre cut washers for under the gear.
Penn
4-60
4-155
4-349
4-115
The Daiwa ones:  27H, 50H, 400H, 600/900H
Abu C3's and C4 type reels.
.50 each

Dawn

[alantani]

so here is a question for you.  if delron/delrin works under the main gear, would it work inside? 

[Alto Mare]

so here is a question for you.  if delron/delrin works under the main gear, would it work inside? 

Is this question directed to me boss? if so, no the Delrin would not work in the gear and you wouldn't want it to.

[Dominick]

so here is a question for you.  if delron/delrin works under the main gear, would it work inside? 

Is this question directed to me boss? if so, no the Delrin would not work in the gear and you wouldn't want it to.

Sal, interesting comment "you wouldn't want it to."  Please explain what you mean by this.  Dominick

[Shark Hunter]

Dominick,
The Delrin acts as a tough slippery surface for the main gear to ride on. You don't want that inside the gear. The drags inside the gear create friction that helps you stop the fish when you crank the star down.
No friction, No Drag.

[Alto Mare]

Dominick, this is very simple. Delrin is very slippery and would be a very good material to use for under the gear, but it would be worthless to use it as drags in the gear. Think of the main gear and its drag washers as a unit, that unit needs to spin as smooth as possible while still doing its job.

[Alto Mare]

Dominick, this is very simple. Delrin is very slippery and would be a very good material to use for under the gear, but it would be worthless to use it as drags in the gear. Think of the main gear and its drag washers as a unit, that unit needs to spin as smooth as possible while still doing its job.

Sorry Daron, we were typing at the same time.

[Shark Hunter]

I was butting in. I think he should understand now.
Dominick, If you want to try some Delrin, I can send you some. That goes for you too Boss.

[Dominick]

Dominick, this is very simple. Delrin is very slippery and would be a very good material to use for under the gear, but it would be worthless to use it as drags in the gear. Think of the main gear and its drag washers as a unit, that unit needs to spin as smooth as possible while still doing its job.

Sorry Daron, we were typing at the same time.

Sal: While I assumed a slippery surface, I also thought it would turn smoothly.  Wouldn't any material smooth or otherwise act as a brake if tightened enough?  Playing the devil's advocate here.  Dominick

[funhog]

I know what delrin is used for and I think if used as a drag washer you would have to cran
your star drag down so tight to get a reasonable amountor drag , that something is going to break, at a bad time and place, and suck the fun out of perfectly good reel.

Dawn thanks for your input: Look for my email as I have few more items I want to get.
john Alldredge

[Bryan Young]

I'm not sure why delirn would be better for under the main gear versus Carbontex.  Under the main gear is also a surface in which you have opposing friction surfaces between the main gear and the gear sleeve...it's the same situation that you have with washers in the main gear. 

[Tightlines667]

As I understand it the Delron is made to be slippery and maintains this propert 'under load'.  Also, it has good long term durability and shows little wear after extended use.  It can be a bit susceptible to flow, and distortion, but is a material that is widely used under the cam assembly to maintain lubricity.  It should make an ideal under gear washer material in terms of helping to maintain the smoothness of the drag under heavy load as well as cranking smoothness.  It will not however provide much in the way of friction or any modest increase in drag over what is provided within the drag stack, and might allow the reel handle to fall back more readily until the dog(S) engages.  I think the positives of using it here, especially in larger sized reels, or at higher drag settings, will far outweigh any perceived drawbacks.

[bluefish69]

We have a few Locals here that are replacing the bearings in the Newell Reels with solid Derlon Bearing.

Mike

[Alto Mare]

.  I think the positives of using it here, especially in larger sized reels, or at higher drag settings, will far outweigh any perceived drawbacks.

I know it will, but not just on larger reels.

Dominick, if you use only metal washers for drags and tighten down the star with pliers, eventually you will stop the gear. That's not what we're doing here.

[Alto Mare]

I have some delrin pre cut washers for under the gear.
Penn
4-60
4-155
4-349
4-115
The Daiwa ones:  27H, 50H, 400H, 600/900H
Abu C3's and C4 type reels.
.50 each

Dawn

Dawn, thanks for stepping in, are those the same as the ones I'm showing on the link? I've seen a couple of  plastic washers, some break when you bend them, these Delrin won't budge.
.50 cents each is a very good price, a small price to pay, considering....