Maging small senators

[Tightlines667]

I was just thinking about what it would take to mag a 500, 112, 113, or even a 114.  I've read the other posts on the topic which basically suggest to use several rare earth mags attached to the left side plate on washers that are glued there.  I was looking around at existing stock-lagged models and wondering if anyone knew of a simple stock adjustable mag part that might be adapted to the smaller penn reels without too many headaches.  I noticed the 970 and 980 magnets are not readily available, but it is possible to order magnets and installation screws for the Mag 10.  It looks like this is simply installed on the inboard side of the bridge, so I was wondering if it would be easy enough to drill and tap other reel model bridges and just install these 2 stock parts:

https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/301-10.aspx

https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/301A-10.aspx

And if so, would this magnet cut (be strong enough) it with small senator models with aftermarket (tiburon) alum spools?  

Alternatively, could small rare earth mags be mounted on the bridge.

Or

Install a magnet in a left side plate bearing cup.  

Or

Could a hope be drilled into the left side plate and a threaded sleeve added so that an adjustable through bolt
with a rare earth magnet attached could be readily added.

Maybe it's just easier to glue some washers in a semicircle in the left side plate and tune it with appropriate magnets, and leave it be.

I have never 'Maged' a real and was just wondering what the best way to skin this cat might be.

Any thoughts?


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

[Alto Mare]

Someone posted these a while back:
http://www.blakdogtackle.com/?cPath=56_129

Unfortunately there isn't much that will work on the small Penn's that is adjustable, there isn't enough room. I have a coup[le of Jigmaster's plates with holes in them that I couldn't do anything with.
The best solution that I've come up with and its very easy to do is on page 6 here, but its not adjustable:

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6391.msg112824#msg112824

Sal

[Tightlines667]

Thanks Sal I've read that and the other 2 posts, and it seems like those methods would work simple enough.  Those kits are interesting.  Wonder how difficult they would be to install in a jigmaster?  What's the easiest way to put an 8mm diameter and tapable metal piece in the side plate?  Mount a small bolt and nut, and drill and tap this to size maybe?  Just thinking out loud here.

[Alto Mare]

Not enough room John, I've tried something homemade and still didn't have enough room. I say it can't be done, but if someone else did it, I want to see it.

[Tightlines667]

How about dropping a few 2-4 small 1/4" dia rare earth mags on top of the outside of Alan's double-dogged, SS bridge...no epoxy needed.  Is there enough clearance here for small mags capable if doing the job.  They would in essence be adjustable if they just grabbed the plate on their own.

[Alto Mare]

Maybe I'm missing something here John, I'm thinking we are talking adjustable from the exterior of the plate, you might be talking something else.

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

I have added magnets to a jigmaster a few times. I glue in a washer and the add a rare earth magnet. That way the magnets are easily removable.

Here is a pic



You can use cup washers to get closer to the spool. Adding an adjustable is possible. I have done that to the left side plate, but did not like it at all due to the fact the design I did stuck out far similar to the 525 mag.

[Tightlines667]

Maybe I'm missing something here John, I'm thinking we are talking adjustable from the exterior of the plate, you might be talking something else.

No just thinking of a few different options.  Mags on the bridge would not be externally adjustable, but just potentially easier to move or change sizes with to get the reel tuned appropriately, especially since the side plate can be removed in the field.

A though bolt through the left side plate would be truely adjustable but I'm kinda thinking it may be more trouble then it's worth.  Prob best to just follow your guys lead on this one.

[Alto Mare]

Good thinking with the bridge plate John, too bad the material used for the custom bridge is very similar to the accurate gears and it doesn't attract the magnets very well, but the post does on both bridge. My smallest magnets are 6.30mm wide and .80mm thick, I'm able to squeeze (2) on the gear sleeve post in the Jigmaster with the stainless spool, but only (1) with the aluminum spool. Would one magnet be enough? maybe.
The 970 uses one and it does great, I never thought I could cast a conventional as I do the 970...much better than my spinners.

With that said, considering what we have to work with,  I believe the best solution is to install something similar to what I'm showing on the 100 and be happy with it for now.

There is always a way to make something work, but it involves lots of time and money. As I mentioned earlier I have two jigmaster's plates with a half inch hole drilled into them. I'm not complaining, I enjoy doing what I do, but when I look at my scrap pile I ask myself why .
Later buddy...keep thinking.
Its all good!
Sal

[Shark Hunter]

I've never magged one either John. This little 180 came magged. Looks like they just glued small flat washers to the end plate.

[basto]

There are other ways to slow down a spool.  Competitive distance casters once used to adjust the speed of the spool to suit a range of casting weights by varying the viscosity of the oil in the spool bearings.

[VW]

In this thread http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11875.0 member Tiddlerbasher showed an adjustable mag set up for a 500.  I have my doubts about that working on larger reels.

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

I am working on a setup very similar. It will work on larger reels, just have to make the screw, spring and magnet larger to compensate for the increase in spool size. Where you will run into issues is on any spool that isn't aluminum. It takes A LOT of power to slow the brass spools. I dont think a single adjustable would suffice.