Squidder freespooling

Started by bestout, April 15, 2015, 10:23:41 PM

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bestout

is this normal on stock bearings? should i still get abec? they are without any lube and i donbt know if i should lube them https://vid.me/Z95P
The monsters in my head are scared......

johndtuttle

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Quote from: bestout on April 15, 2015, 10:23:41 PM
is this normal on stock bearings? should i still get abec? they are without any lube and i donbt know if i should lube them https://vid.me/Z95P

yes you should lube them. Generally the concept is *protection first* then other considerations. There is nothing wrong with those bearings obviously, but you should protect them with an oil of your choice or grease if you want max protection.

otghoyt

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I like Squidders.  They are great and fun little reels.  

Almost sounds like clicker metal making that sound.  A bind would reflect in the amount of freespool spin time and you have some serious freespool spin time there.  Take a look at the Penn bearing shields in the cups.  See if one isn't sitting flat as it should within the bearing cup.  May be tagging the the clicker gear on the shaft.

Some of the guys here just take the Penn bearing shields out and toss 'em.  Personally I take the factory shields off the bearing itself and dry lube them then re-install, shield-less using the Penn supplied shield that drop into the cup on top of the bearing.  I also use lighter spools than the factory bronze/chrome Penn spools and I don't get near your spin time...but... It is about the ease which the spool starts to spin as the cast begins that equates into distance.  Quite often, just the inherent difficulty of getting a heavy spool to begin to spin causes instant birds nest.

To each his own and good luck,

Hoyt

bestout

Forgot to mention i took the shields of to get that amount of freespool they are just without lube
The monsters in my head are scared......

Alto Mare

Did you take the shield off the stock bearings?  :-\
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

bestout

Quote from: Alto Mare on April 18, 2015, 05:40:31 PM
Did you take the shield off the stock bearings?  :-\
Well 3 shields and the 4th one got jam i might think of getting new bearings
The monsters in my head are scared......

Alto Mare

I didn't think those came off :-\.
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

otghoyt

Alan shows a pry-off method on his Squidder tutorial.  He also says how easy it to turn them into junk doing this. 

bestout

Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 19, 2015, 02:14:19 AM
Alan shows a pry-off method on his Squidder tutorial.  He also says how easy it to turn them into junk doing this. 
luckily they still good  :D
The monsters in my head are scared......

otghoyt

He even shows a little tool he made to get under the shield and pop it out...........

"to remove a metal shield that is pressed into the bearing, you need another specialized tool.  this is an old screwdriver that i've ground to a nice long point.  drive the point in between the shield and the inner race, the pry up the shield.  it will be mangled at this point and will have to be discarded.  this takes a light touch.  drive the point in to far and you will mangle the cage and ruin the bearings.  i tried using the point of a small swiss army knife for a bunch of small boca bearings and ruined the entire lot, about $100's worth.  be careful!"


http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13.0

About half way down

Alto Mare

Yup, you're right, the shields come right off

They're only 1/16 wide, I didn't think they would. Using a hook, they come right off
I thought Alan was showing different bearings. He's always one up on us, that's why he's the boss ;D.

On larger bearings,you might want to give these a shot. No hammer, just a little pressure
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1971.msg10129#msg10129
Those should be safer to use.

Sal
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

bestout

Yup i used a hook and i got pinched couple of times but was worth it now am just waiting on the other parts to arrive to test my distance.
I was impressed i got more freespool than my avet with sealed bearing.
The monsters in my head are scared......

Alto Mare

The bearings I'm showing above feel much better than most...don't ask me why, I don't know.
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

bestout

Quote from: Alto Mare on April 19, 2015, 04:46:33 AM
The bearings I'm showing above feel much better than most...don't ask me why, I don't know.
I soaked mines overnight on your secret green formula and they camw out like this with more freespool jejejeje  8).
http://imgur.com/iuNyG6W
http://imgur.com/lVCvK1r
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otghoyt

Hey yooo guys!  I like the hook method and it worked for me as well.  Thanks for bustin open your squidder to show me how.  I didn't feel like grinding a screw driver but the hook worked perfect.  Now my cast timing needs some practice.  I am going out this coming Teusday for Cali Yellowtail and that's my first go-to rig.

As long as you are monitoring this string...what are the McMasters numbers on stainless flat head screws for a jigmaster handle side ring for the posts?  Or remind me of where the tank lesson where you shared that information.  I can't find it.