Jigging master PE4 drag trouble

hafnor · February 09, 2011, 08:02:55 PM

Okey guys. I am having a serious issue. A friend of mine just lost two 200 pound plus halibuts due to a jigging master that wouldnt give any drag. (almost freespool with a very weak drag). The weird thing is that it works very well in warm weather, but getting it out in the field on a cold day the drag completely disappears. We tested the reel and put it on strike with 20 pounds of drag in his livingroom, and then we took the reel outside where there is cold and after some hours that 20 pound drag on strike is like a freespool. what is it with this reel?

Help would be very much appreciated.

Best regards from your Norwegian friend, Thor

alantani · February 09, 2011, 09:04:32 PM

first guess is moisture. if your reel has teflon drag washers, then it does not surprise me that you are having problems, but i have never heard of this.

hafnor · February 09, 2011, 09:07:59 PM

The reel has been greased with cals light and regular grease... its carbon drag washers as far as I know, same as the new accurates... when the reel heats up again to rommtemperatur the drag comes back to 20 pounds, still at strike

Norcal Pescador · February 09, 2011, 10:37:59 PM

Sounds like something with a very close [extremely close?] tolerance is expanding and contracting with the temp change to do this. This sounds like an engineer [Bryan] question.

My $0.02

hafnor · February 10, 2011, 12:01:22 AM

HELP Bryan!!

Bryan Young · February 10, 2011, 12:20:48 AM

Did you wipe the excess grease off the drag washer?

I've noticed that Cal's grease, like most grease, hardens in cold weather, and if there is excess grease on the drag washers, it may prevent the drag plate to properly seat on the drag washer. I cannot think of anything else that could prevent this condition. Can you open the reel and take pics?

Alto Mare · February 10, 2011, 12:49:28 AM

I'm with Bryan, sound like a lubricant problem. Start from there before digging too deep.

akfish · February 10, 2011, 01:04:26 AM

Are you sure the line isn't slipping on the spool? The cold weather may cause it to become "brittle" and not grip the spool. Did you anchor the line with mono or tape? If not, I'll bet this is the issue.

Bryan Young · February 10, 2011, 02:14:55 AM

I'm more of a visual person, so it's hard to me to think up possible problems/solutions without having something that I can look at. Sorry.

hafnor · February 10, 2011, 09:24:34 AM

Thank you so much, I will take some pics soon, I think my friend did wipe off the excess, but still... this is pretty weird.

Alto Mare · February 10, 2011, 11:55:26 AM

Try Smoothies, they should be installed dry with no oil or grease as they are treated with dry lubricant. I think they will work well in colder climate.

hafnor · February 10, 2011, 02:05:43 PM

Where do I order from? and how do I know the specifics will fit? I could use some for my saragosa too

Alto Mare · February 10, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

I get mine from Charkbait.com, Leeana is very helpful.

Norcal Pescador · February 10, 2011, 04:26:25 PM

Quote from: hafnor on February 10, 2011, 02:05:43 PM
Where do I order from? and how do I know the specifics will fit? I could use some for my saragosa too

Look on Dawn's [Smooothdrag] board here or at smoothdrag.com For smoothdrag, you may need the washer dimensions; she should have the saragosas in stock. Charkbait and smoothdrag are both great to deal with.

hafnor · February 11, 2011, 01:25:54 PM

Thank you guys, fortunately I only need some ones for the saragosa, because... The line was slipping on the spool, My friend was so embarrassed.. OMG! He could not see that the spool wasn`t turning because it is so shiny and the reel was brand new. Thank you anyways