Shakespeare 1870

[oc1]

Do you have to pinch the line between forefinger and the cork grip to hold it before release?  Might work well for very light weights.
-steve

[Alto Mare]

Thanks guys!
john, great information, thank you. I love this little reel, you just don't see that kind of craftsmanship on today's reels. These, along with many others are often ignored, it is nice to grab one every once in a while and hold it in your hands.
Steve, no pinching the line, it is the same principal as most spinning reel, hold the line with your index finger and let it go. It is a great design, functional and very easy to use.

Sal

[oc1]

Sorry, I'm a little slow Sal and still don't get it.  When preparing to cast an open-face spinner you hold the line as it comes off the side of the spool.  With a closed face-spinner the line can only come off the front of the spool.  Any chance we could see it with the spool cover removed?

I really like that adjustable reel seat too.  Wish they still made those.
-steve

[Marcq]

I think the reel is meant to be fished under the rod and behind your hand so the line comes out where your index finger is like a spinner

Marc..

[Alto Mare]

I think the reel is meant to be fished under the rod and behind your hand so the line comes out where your index finger is like a spinner

Marc..

That is correct Marc, I'm thinking you have one of these 

Sal

[Marcq]

I think the reel is meant to be fished under the rod and behind your hand so the line comes out where your index finger is like a spinner

Marc..

That is correct Marc, I'm thinking you have one of these 

Sal

No I don't , but it reminds me of the ones that are mounted on the rod the same way but the reel as like a trigger in front of it,I think they still make them

Marc..

[Marcq]

like this
http://www.zebco.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Choosing_Triggerspin_Reel2.png

Marc..

[oc1]

I'm not only slow, I'm a pest.  Can't let this go until I understand....

On a modern spincast there is a button or a trigger.  When the button/trigger is fully depressed, the rotor moves forward and pinches the line between the edge of the rotor and the inside of the spool cover.  At the same time, the pen that serves the same function as a bail retracts into the rotor.  When casting, the button/trigger is released, the rotor moves backward, and the line is released.  Releasing the button/trigger is like removing your thumb from a conventional reel or releasing the line from your index finger on an open face spinning reel).  When the handle is turned the pen (bail) pops back out of the rotor to catch the line and wind it in.

On the 1870, the handle is turned backward to do something.  It probably retracts the pen/bail.  You have the line tucked under the index finger like you would with an open face spinning reel.  But how is the line held in place (pinched in place) so it does not play off the spool while it is tucked under the index finger?

Just curious.
-steve

[Alto Mare]

Steve, ask as many questions as you want, it's never a problem here.
I will show a couple of additional pics, that should clear it up.
You do hold the line against the rod when moving the handle backwards, or pinch it using your thumb

Yes, there is a pin on the spool, it wouldn't work without it.

Here it the pin  retracted, when the handle is moved backwards

and back out when the handle is moved forward


It sounds complicated, it is actually very easy to work with...great design.

Sal

[Marcq]

You can tell it's well made

Marc..

[oc1]

Thank you so much for taking the time to do that Sal.  I get it now; pinch the line to hold it.  There's a model 1756 up for auction in case you want to expand the collection.
-steve

[mo65]

Sal...I thought you might get a kick out of my WonderCast 1776. That stainless steel ring around the spool cover is the drag control, and it works surprisingly well. It's mounted on a very clean WonderRod from the same era...and I've caught some pretty nice bass on that combo. The one on the bottom is an earlier model 1920 Wondereel on an old True Temper steel rod. 

[Alto Mare]

 Beautiful rods and reels Mo, thanks for sharing. I love the oldies.