Albino Red Snapper

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David Hall



Tightlines667

Quote from: sdlehr on June 14, 2016, 01:35:19 AM
Quote from: anglingarchitect on June 13, 2016, 10:59:30 PM
So educate us Sid what is it if not albino?

Mark
I'm guessing leucism...
Sid

Leucistic and hedonistic genetic variations are much more commonplace in the gene pool then albinism.  Interspecific variation also can occur.. especially among subspecies.. though this is not likely the case here.  Sometimes these things occur more frequently assoc8ated with generic bottlenecking which can be caused by population crashes or isolations.  Just remember correlation does not imply causation :)
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David Hall

I'm sticking with my first guess.

sdlehr

Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 14, 2016, 01:44:32 AM
"hedonistic genetic variations"
John, I've heard of "Hedonistic Personality Disorder", but I don't recall this term being used in this context before.... Is this the term given to dolphin sexual behavior? Are there other species that exhibit this type of behavior?

Sid
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Tightlines667

Quote from: sdlehr on June 14, 2016, 05:47:33 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 14, 2016, 01:44:32 AM
"hedonistic genetic variations"
John, I've heard of "Hedonistic Personality Disorder", but I don't recall this term being used in this context before.... Is this the term given to dolphin sexual behavior? Are there other species that exhibit this type of behavior?

Sid

No it refers to a genetic variation which expresses physically as darker coloration in a typically l8ght colored species, or typically light colored parts.  For instance, here in HI, we often see Laysan Albatross which exhibit some dark coloration... they can be difficult to distinguish from a Laysan-Black footed Albatross (which is dark colored) hybrid.  Our observers have seen white colored Marlin.. how cool would that mount be?

John
Hope springs eternal
for the consumate fishermen.

sdlehr

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Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 14, 2016, 05:58:00 AM

darker coloration in a typically l8ght colored species, or typically light colored parts.
John
I thought that was melanism.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 14, 2016, 05:58:00 AM
Our observers have seen white colored Marlin.. how cool would that mount be?

John
Very cool, but I'd worry about them getting the paint color right in something seen this infrequently.
Sid
Sid Lehr
Veterinarian, fishing enthusiast, custom rod builder, reel collector

Newell Nut

Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 14, 2016, 01:44:32 AM
Quote from: sdlehr on June 14, 2016, 01:35:19 AM
Quote from: anglingarchitect on June 13, 2016, 10:59:30 PM
So educate us Sid what is it if not albino?

Mark
I'm guessing leucism...
Sid

Leucistic and hedonistic genetic variations are much more commonplace in the gene pool then albinism.  Interspecific variation also can occur.. especially among subspecies.. though this is not likely the case here.  Sometimes these things occur more frequently assoc8ated with generic bottlenecking which can be caused by population crashes or isolations.  Just remember correlation does not imply causation :)

FWC classified it as Leucistic due to black eyes.

akfish

We don't catch red snapper up here in SE Alaska, but we do catch yelloweye rockfish, a fish often erroneously called "red snapper." Yelloweye are bright red/orange, but occasionally -- like 1 in 50 or 100 fish -- they turn snow white when you bring them up. I was told by a fisheries biologist that it is a reaction to stress. It only happened to me once. The fish was snow white until I conked it on the head and bled it. Shorty after it died, it turned orange again. Had I released it, I would have thought it was a white yelloweye.
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ez2cdave

Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 12, 2016, 11:56:42 PM
Wow.. that is pretty cool.  Would make a great mount.

What fish ?

Tiddlerbasher

A fish without pigmentation :-\

Steve-O

Sorry to crop you out as well, Dwight, but the star of the show was getting photo bombed by the paparazzi.

Amazing, very unique fish.


Dominick

It sure is a beauty.  Dominick
Leave the gun.  Take the cannolis.

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