Grandwave 40 aerospool -

Started by seriola, July 17, 2016, 05:47:35 AM

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seriola

 Following in the footsteps of the finesse bass reel spool mods- I wanted a spool in the medium multiplier reel size that can throw 1oz and start up as fast as possible.
     




Holding capacity suffix 832 50lb = 250m  stitched with a 80lb 832 leader.  Purpose built for spinning for Yellowtail and casting practice.



The Reducer is gold anodised Curtain Rail aluminium pipe cut into two equal halves and both halves lock into the holes drilled with protrusions I included on the side of eah half and must be perfectly centred, then no vibration occurs. This one is crude and weighs around 6 grams.



Reducers can be set to any height or level on the spool according to the holes you have drilled for them, depending on where you want them.
I will post some  drawings of the other options you have for the reducers.
One spool can be designed to accommodate reducers at different levels.



- Superior/excellent spool start up speed and accelaration
- Very stable spinning due to the aerobraking affect caused by the design.
- capable of casting ultra light weights due to spool weight reduction .
- For general casting it is now ALOT faster at startup than the standard spool.

Prior to going aero the original spool was taken down as much as possible in order to rival the weight of an equal size abu spool from back in the day.



Taken down in a lathe and polished prior to going aerospool.







After all the work and prototyping the blemishes needed a going over.
I sprayed up the completed prototype and baked it - Job done and have the recipe for the next one. -





It is by far, the fastest Medium sized reel I have cast with !
It whistles like a turbocharger and starts up with as little as 25grams -

The 50lb 832 Braid capacity with the line cap. reducer is 250m. (above photo)
I spooled it up as tight as possible and nothing popped..
Drag tests did not dislodge the line capacity reducer or break the spool. 15lbs + pulling on a rugby post.

Good results so far!! I'm positive it will be able to be used for fishing.

The light weight makes casting very efficient as little energy is needed to get the spool going and the projectile does not get slowed down by the weight of the spool.

At present the prototype weighs in at 44grams - 4 grams above the goal weight but close enough for the first mockup.



Copy at will - All anglers should have the opportunity to have so much fun with a multiplier.

I believe this could be a great aftermarket product for any medium or large sized fishing reel out there.
Take the standard spool out and pop a hyper aerospool in. Turning your standard reel into a casting machine.
It is hyper fast , strong enough for the concept that it is and loads of fun...but most importantly, it works.
It takes a med/large sized multiplier to the next level of performance.

Please Ask any questions  ,I'll endeavour to answer them.




Robert Janssen


mo65

Lighter spools for casting weights under one ounce is something I've been messing with too...only your efforts are much more technical...nice work!  8) 
~YOU CAN TUNA GEETAR...BUT YOU CAN'T TUNA FEESH~


Tiddlerbasher


David Hall

If I didn't see it I would not have believed it.
That's off the wall incredible!
Nice work indeed.

Cor

Cornelis

Bill B

Good work brother...thanks for sharing....Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

seriola

Thank you for the positive comments Gents.

Will keep you posted on further developments.

Vintage Offshore Tackle

What keeps the saltwater out of the reel?

mo65

Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 17, 2016, 09:03:26 PM
What keeps the saltwater out of the reel?

I was thinking by being so open...a freshwater rinse would hit everything inside...and dry fast too.
~YOU CAN TUNA GEETAR...BUT YOU CAN'T TUNA FEESH~


Vintage Offshore Tackle

That's true.    That's definitely the raciest looking spool that I have ever seen, like it belongs on a Formula 1 car!

seriola

#11
What I do is spray a lubricant that coats the inside side plates and bearings and aids in causing the water to bead.
The water then beads off towards the bottom of the sideplates.

The bearings are open and have Quantum hot sauce and prolong SPL 100 over them.
The water seems to bead off them well. I am in a testing phase with this and all my fishing is salt water based.
Using braid brings a lot of water back up to the reel during a casting session so when i'm done I rinse it in fresh water. Shake the reel off and let it air dry.  mo65 is right on the money about this.

There is a product in South Africa called Wynflon. It is a PTFE based spray and I have found it to be braid friendly.
It has a long tube adaptor for the spray nozzle so I can insert it through the spool holes and spray the bearings without taking the reel apart and not worry about the lubricant getting on the braid and breaking it down.
http://www.wynns.co.za/ - second product from the right.
I used this product with success prior to testing with the other products I am using currently.
Product info -  Wynflon- Superior PTFE lubrication with high load carrying properties. Ideal for garage worm gears, bike chains, fishing reels, gun mechanisms, gym equipment and micro gears. Wynflon is a clean lubricant which flashes off the surface leaving dry solids to lubricate.

My periodic checks inside the reel have revealed that this method is working but by no means fullproof. Running an open spool is not maintenance free. Its been a couple weeks now casting every second day and the bearings are still holding lubricant and are free of debris.

If I was casting on the sandy beach and wading I would run the bearings closed and full of  blue marine grease or find some magsealed bearings. Still, having the bearing coated in a hydrophobic film will help a lot.
Something that creates a debris ingress block . Greasing the bearing would drop the performance level of the spool though...

The concept is definitely application specific, similar to the finesse bass spools.


mo65

Quote from: seriola on July 19, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
Greasing the bearing would drop the performance level of the spool though...

I have an idea...and no clue if it will work...but it sounds good on paper. :D ;) :P What if you lubed the bearings with your preferred high speed oil, reinstalled shields, then slather the outside with a marine grease. The only problem I can see is too much grease on the spindle may slow it down a bit. Only one way to find out though!  8)
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steelfish

that looks awesome but Im kind of loss on the size of the reel to call it medium

whats the size of the reel, style of fishing focused and rod used?
its clear to me that you want to cast 1oz lures and going after kingfish (considering your nickname) Seriola Lalandi and have enough stopping power, but not sure if would be jigging, with poppers or small metals



The Baja Guy

oc1

Very nice whiffle spools.  I'm impressed.  Especially the aluminum spacer.

Wynflon sounds sort of like LPS-1 which is also a "dry lube".  I like it better than Hot Sauce or TSI-321.  But, anything you put on a bearing is going to shorten the free spin time and the free spin time is correlated to casting distance (all else being equal).  

Bearing seals will help protect from flying debris but may actually help wick liquids into the bearing.  If an open bearing gets wet it will sling off the water in a few minutes unless there are lubricants present.  If water and lubricant come together inside a bearing it will be whipped into a thick emulsion that ruins performance and can be removed only by solvents and flushing.

I'm sold on bearings run dry.  Even stainless steel bearings can be run dry to good effect.  The stainless is soft and subject to pitting and corrosion but stainless bearings can be replaced at little cost.  Hybrid ceramic is somewhat more expensive but cast well.  I haven't worn out a set of hybrid ceramic bearings yet and cannot attest to their longevity.  Full ceramic is much more expensive and performance even better.  I am trying to wear them out now but there are limits to how much time can be spent casting.

Grease and oil can migrate around inside the reel especially when near the spool flange and spool shaft.  The inside of the pinion is particularly noteworthy.  If you're not careful, lubricants will move and contaminate the bearing.  I've been using a flux brush to paint a thin coat of Yamaha grease on things that must have lubrication.  If it's plastic and doesn't need grease then its not painted.

-steve