Spooling Line on Spools

[Tiddlerbasher]

When I built my spooler I used a DC E-bike motor 36V. Reduction gearing by toothed pulleys and belts. Final speed 180 rpm or 3 revs a second. This gearing also increased the torque. To make the whole thing practical you need a very strong reel mount and a consistent drag mechanism. This thread should give you some ideas:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11452.0

[Keta]

Thanks for all the replies and advice guys.  Jeez!!!!  I'm a sticky!!!!

Now I gotta figure out a way to spool line with that much tension without a winder.  I'll figure it out.

You could drive to Klamath Falls and use my linewinder.

[Rivverrat]

But  for braid I see no reason to use more than 10lb

   Thought about this myself. The issue can be when using heavier braids that have been wound on at 10 lbs. resistance, then with fish on going to 20 lbs. of drag or more, the braid can & in some cases will embed
in its self ... Jeff

[Tiddlerbasher]

Not so according to Jerry Brown

[Rivverrat]

Not so according to Jerry Brown

   I was unaware of this. Do you have a link where this was stated ? While all my reels contain braid I am always open to learning more. The embedding of braid into the braid on the spool stopped when I started filling my reels at higher drag. I'll be the first to admit I could be missing something in the process... Jeff

[Tiddlerbasher]

I have spooled reels with 10lb to 20lb drag - with 60-80lb test. Then the line was pulled to over 30lb - no difference, no dig in. Several years ago I did some tests spooling the same line at different drag settings and measuring the amount of line on the spool. Over 10lb drag did not get any more line on the spool - from this I concluded any minimal stretch was gone by 10lb drag (therefore any more spooling drag was a waste of energy).
When I spool line I use a crisscross method (I don't use a nice and neat 'side by side' technique). If you are using very fine braids (like 20-30lb) possible dig in may be an issue - never tried

I don't trust the factory spooling to be tight enough so I rewind the braid onto an intermediate spool at 10lbs. My spooling machine applies drag at the spool not directly on the line.

I do regularly use 40 or 50lb hollow core braid for fly line backing (not for strength but minimal knots and capacity). I only spool it with a couple of pounds of drag - never caught anything remotely big enough to cause any problems

[kmstorm64]

I can't say for spooling it on, but taking it off, I chuck a piece of wooden dowel in my drill and just allow the drill to do all the work after that.

[Hytekrednek]

I either put Vet Wrap (sometimes sold as Flex Wrap) on the spool or splice in a short section of Dacron lie to tie to the spool.

Great idea!  I have been using a very nice double sided tape, made from what locks like weaved fiberglass and has a very good adhesive. I just cut a piece the width of the spool and go around the spool 1 wrap with no over lapping tape. Your idea sounds easier. I have plenty of Coban, and some vet wrap too.

[Drisse]

Has anyone ever noticed any difference in what knot have been used when spooling a reel ? Or is it just the own trust in the knot ? Do you guys always use the same knot on all reels, or one knot on small reels and one on big reels ? I've used the Arbor knot, but saw here that for example Alan is using the Uni knot and six wraps around the spool arbor.

[UKChris1]

I've just loaded another couple of reels with PE braid using my usual method which, so far, has proven successful on blue marlin and big-eye tuna of 'good size' on Tiagra 50W reels.

- slide about 8-10 feet of waxed dacron over the end of the PE braid as this will grip the spool quite nicely
- tie a clove hitch around the spool and run the tag end round again to come back up to the main length
- tie the tag end to the main line with a four-turn Grinner and smooth out the dacron
- carefully arrrange the whole knot arrangement so that the crossing line of the clove hitch is snug up against the nub sticking up out of the spool spindle
- pull everything tight!
- wind the line cotton-reel fashion for two complete passes across the spool
- now wind on all the PE braid line tightly, to be level and without excess criss-crossing

The big fag is getting the line on tight so first I'll measure the amount of line I want to put on the reel. This I do manually by winding off the stock spool onto a large drum, counting the revolutions (150 revs = 100 metres). Next all this line is wound onto a 12/0 Everol under reasonable tension before tying the end to the fishing reel as described above.
Finally, wind the PE braid from the Everol onto the fishing reel under as much drag as you think is right (I reckon about 10lb or so) before adding whatever topshot you want. Both reels need to be very securely mounted for this.

Having filled three 50W over two days meant 1.5 kilometres of line going backwards and forwards (then 600 yards of topshot), leading to some 'Popeye-style' arm muscles    but no spool slip even under the determined pull of some cracking fish.

Not looking forward to spooling the 80W!