Removing custom knobs

[Alto Mare]

I realize that some of you might already know this, but for those who don't ...as me , when removing the type of handle as the one I'm showing here, you need to go clokwise.
I wasn't aware and messed up the hex head.
I was still able to do it though, by cutting a slot in the screw head




These come crazy tight from Accurate,I believe they use permanent loctite.
I'm putting it back on our custom handle using blue loctite

Porthos mentioned these handles were too thick for our Jigmasters, this was a while back.
I told him they would be ok, but I was wrong, the aluminum Accurate handles  are no match when used with our ss sleeves on our Jigmasters...you guys know what I mean when I refer to these parts as ours, they're made available because of all of us.
Here is a shot of the thick handle to give you an idea:

and the knob on the new ss handle. That nice knob is much happier now:


Hoping this is of some help for some.

Sal

[Gfish]

Yeah, I came close to ruining threads on my Accurate, so I wrote "L thread" in permeant marker, back-side a handle. Come to think of it I probably got spinner pinion nuts with backward threads, better get the marker n' check.
Gfish

[fishhawk]

Thanx Sal, no wonder I couldn't get one out!

[foakes]

Easy to do, Sal...and good advice --

I do not always do this -- but generally I try to remember:

When working on custom reels, high end reels, reels for left-handers, some really old reels, plus French and Italian reels -- If I am not absolutely certain of the thread direction -- I start the screw or nut carefully in a clockwise direction.

If right hand threaded -- worst case would be a no-go or a breaking loose of the screw set -- then back out normally.  Best case -- it just comes out because it is opposite threaded.

Old man Tommel taught me this -- down on Blackstone, in Fresno, about 45 years ago.

He was old school, and worked on many of the French Spinners and old bait-casters.  The German Silver Screws were hard to replace -- even in those days.

Another thing, if using an Allen Wrench or a Nut Driver -- no issues, except if we get too aggressive.

However, if using a screwdriver on an old reel, expensive, or custom reel -- make sure the screwdriver is hollow ground -- and the proper size to fit the slot perfectly & snugly -- with a good gripping handle to do the job the first time smoothly and properly.

I generally get  2 or 3 opportunities to ruin a screw -- and only one to save it the right way.

Best Always,

Fred

[Alto Mare]

Yes Fred you are correct. A 70+ year old plumber thought me that a while back as well and more, the problem here, the screw wasn't moving at all.
When not sure and applying pressure in both directions it will gets you, especially if it is welded as this one was.
All Alan Chui's handles knobs that I have are  all couterclockwise for on and  clockwise for off.
Some of the  knobs I have are the opposite.

[STRIPER LOU]

All good stuff guys! Another thing that helps if its an all metal knob, is to use my soldering gun for a few minutes on the screw. That usually enough to start melting the locktite.

And your absolutely correct the Accurate stuff has forever locktite!!!

.......................Lou

[thorhammer]

great tips. I like the gun idea.

[coastal_dan]

Good to know! 

Also, slight change of subject...love the finish on your wrench.

[Gfish]

Is it better to use the blue locktite(temp.) or ta just torque it back on when the manufacturer locktite's it on? And can ya(not on purpose) mix grease with the locktite?
Gfish
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[Swami805]

Son of a gun, I've been wrestling with an old accurate handle for a few weeks trying to un-screw it. Thanks for posting that I was ready to give up. Sheridan

[Alto Mare]

Gfish, if your questions were directed to me, OI don't know.

Interesting about the loctite I found on the screw, there was some red at the tip, but most was mustard color and the smell  was so strong, something like sulfer.
It  reminded me of the same stuff I found on a Tiburom spool shaft after removing it from an aluminum spool

[Dominick]

Good post as usual Sal.  You also showed how to recover from a mistake.  Dominick

[STRIPER LOU]

Very observant Sal! What you are smelling is Loctite primer. It doesn't surprise me that Accurate would use this as they, like yourself pay attention to detail. It will turn most of the Loctite colors to a straw/brown.
When the components are properly cleaned and primed, I doubt they would ever come apart.
................Lou

[foakes]

Very observant Sal! What you are smelling is Loctite primer. It doesn't surprise me that Accurate would use this as they, like yourself pay attention to detail. It will turn most of the Loctite colors to a straw/brown.
When the components are properly cleaned and primed, I doubt they would ever come apart.
................Lou

Might experiment with a little JBWeld, Sal...

If it holds, that would be the first time I have ever known someone who has had success with their product.



Best Always,

Fred

[Alto Mare]

Very good information Lou, it doesn't surprise me you would know thart stuff...thanks!

Fred, a lot of guys here really like JBWeld, pesonally, I never had luck with that stuff.

About these knobs, knowing the direction to turn, the second one came right out, but I still had to cut a slot in the screw head. The hex just doesn't do it:

The one in front is sitting on a titanium arm...love it!


On another note, here is the reason I was able to play with some of my stuff today:

Its cold outside, our high was 20 degreese today. I understand some of you have it worst, this is too early in the season for us.