Stainless rings for a 349 Master Mariner

[Keta]

....What exactly do you use the mariner 349 for, what type fishing?....

I use them for deep water (600"-700") pacific halibut.  Mine are filled with JB 60# solid Spectra and a 10' mono topshot.

[Tiddlerbasher]

I just cuddle mine - polish them - put them on a shelf - Oh and fondle them, crank them, rebuild them. Repeat ad infinitum

[mhc]

What exactly do you use the mariner 349 for, what type fishing?

Deep bottom fishing is the plan, but I haven't been out wide enough to use them yet. Maybe set up a wireline reel as well - I've got 300 yds of 60lb monel wire but haven't rigged it yet.
In the meantime, a bit like Tiddlerbasher but I don't fondle them I just give them a pat on the back. 


Mike

[Darin Crofton]

What exactly do you use the mariner 349 for, what type fishing?

Deep bottom fishing is the plan, but I haven't been out wide enough to use them yet. Maybe set up a wireline reel as well - I've got 300 yds of 60lb monel wire but haven't rigged it yet.
In the meantime, a bit like Tiddlerbasher but I don't fondle them I just give them a pat on the back. 


Mike

Hi Mike,
Did you ever check your max drag numbers on this reel? I'm starting a build soon on one of these and I'm curious to what #'s I'll be getting?
I have the same drag, but won't be able to max it out because I'll only have one dog.
Beautiful reel!
Darin

[mhc]

Hi Darin,
I haven't tested this reel for maximum drag but with Adam's (three7evens)insert I estimate it would be around 30 lbs.

George4741 tested 5 stack carbon washers in a 349 (2.1:1 gearing) and a 349H (3.25:1 gearing) a few years ago http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4983.0 and got 29 lbs on the 349 (2:1) & 18 lbs on the 349H (3.25:1). The difference between the two gear ratios ties in with a formular Jurelometer uses in this thread for calculating torque http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14241.0

George used a conventional 5 stack where the carbon washers are free to rotate and only work on one side, ie total 5 friction surfaces - with the drag inserts, the 5 carbon are keyed into the insert and all the metal washers rotate so that both sides of the carbon is working, ie 10 friction surfaces for 5 washers.

So, for the 349H, 18 * 10/5 = 36 lbs and for the 349, 29 * 10/5 = 58 lbs......... give or take a lot  

Mike

Edit - Threesevens only makes drag inserts for the 349H gear

[Darin Crofton]

Hi Darin,
I haven't tested this reel for maximum drag but with Adam's (three7evens)insert I estimate it would be around 30 lbs.

George4741 tested 5 stack carbon washers in a 349 (2.1:1 gearing) and a 349H (3.25:1 gearing) a few years ago http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4983.0 and got 29 lbs on the 349 (2:1) & 18 lbs on the 349H (3.25:1). The difference between the two gear ratios ties in with a formular Jurelometer uses in this thread for calculating torque http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14241.0

George used a conventional 5 stack where the carbon washers are free to rotate and only work on one side, ie total 5 friction surfaces - with the drag inserts, the 5 carbon are keyed into the insert and all the metal washers rotate so that both sides of the carbon is working, ie 10 friction surfaces for 5 washers.

So, for the 349H, 18 * 10/5 = 36 lbs and for the 349, 29 * 10/5 = 58 lbs......... give or take a lot  

Mike

Thanks for the reply and info, Mike! I have both sets of gears and will probably go with the lower gear to dig some groupers up from the abyss. Darin