carbontex for shimano scorpion 1501 XT

ek1ns · August 09, 2011, 10:18:22 AM

hi guys

... posting from indonesia

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need your suggestion for my new toy, shimano scorpion 1501XT,
i plan to put the carbontex drag washer, but haven't find any that match the specification in their website

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wonder if someone know the correct washer that match for scorpion 1501 XT,
plan to use it against barramundi, blackbass, or baby GT along the coast n estuary...
i'm afraid shimano's dartanium drags not gonna stand a chance........
please en-light me guys.. thanks

Nessie Hunter · August 09, 2011, 03:05:41 PM

The new Scorpion is compared to the Curado by Shimano (JDM Curado) and is probably very close in Drag size?

If you can take it down and measure Drag Washers (I could not find a schematic or drag specs??)
A micrometer would be an asset...
You can order them by size...
Or Dawn at SmoothDrags.com 'may know' what they take (Give her a Email or PM here)....

I always get 10% to 20% more drag from the Wovern Carbon Fiber drags (Carbontex)....
The Scorpion has 9# Stock so you may get up to 10/11#?? But smoother and longer lasting...
Touch of Cals Drag Grease (also available at Smoothdrags.com) And you have a winner!!!!

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ek1ns · August 09, 2011, 04:47:18 PM

Hm... Good ide

, i'll try to measure up the washer size and PM her, maybe she might know the correct washer for my toy. Well shimano claim the drag is identical to curado which is about 11 lb, but havent test it out yet.
Well 11 lb is still not enough for me anyway.

, i need more drag pressure....

Thanks for the info. I'll let u know once i find out the correct washer...

alantani · August 09, 2011, 05:50:00 PM

if you could post the dimension for dawn, i'm certain she can help. and welcome!!!!!!

Nessie Hunter · August 09, 2011, 10:18:52 PM

Need more drag in a Low Profile 200 Size reel???

Abu Garcia Revo Inshore... Advertized at 22# ....

Awesome little reels...
I have 2 inshores and a Toro 60 (same reels, wider Frame & Spool)....
Inshore = 200 Size Spool
Toro 50 = 300 Size spool
Toro 60 = 400 Size Spool....

They have a glitch in the Kick Lever (Alan found and brought it to light)
Easy/cheap change out if/when it goes bad........

New part :
part number is 1156749 and they are available for $2.50 each plus s&h.
Total about $6.50 ---- 1-800-228-4272..

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ek1ns · August 10, 2011, 05:23:14 AM

in fact most anglers in Indonesia use abu's reel for saltwater,
i have both toro 51 and 61 too

, but after bout 30 trips, my toro 51 drag start to stutter and 've a lot of boat rash, i guess abu's coating sucks...
i always take good care of all my reel... and even wash it with H20 water

after each trip....
that's why i plan to change the washer to carbontex too... n ship it together with scorpion's washer...

Dawn · August 10, 2011, 03:37:56 PM

Hi
Same drags as the TE200, for the Scorpion. I have them.

Dawn

alantani · August 10, 2011, 04:03:07 PM

see? told ya she was good!

Dawn · August 10, 2011, 07:16:43 PM

Thanks Alan

ek1ns · August 11, 2011, 03:40:53 AM

i've just had time to take a look at it today, n dawn just mailed me moment ago, and yeah she's rite,

i borrowed my friend's curado e7.... and compared the washer n it's identical

thanks dawn, u r officially walking dictionary............

ek1ns · September 02, 2011, 04:22:59 PM

Hi guys, got the carbontex 3 weeks ago, thx to dawn
N finally just had time to installed it 3 days ago, work great, increased the drag pressure better than before using carbontex..
But i'm abit confused with the shimano's claim that the max drag resistence is bout 11 lbs while i test it out Using digital Scale and Hooked the line on it, with max crank just bout 6 lbs, same thing with my friends curado e7 that's still using dartanium drags bout 5 lbs but jerky...
Anyone having the same issue? Thx

Dawn · September 05, 2011, 04:22:15 PM

It seems like the manufacturers claims are usually a little high.
Do you have good range? By any chance is the star stopping against the side of the reel and you can't tighten any more?

ek1ns · September 06, 2011, 02:10:39 PM

Yupe, cranked the star drag all the way down $:-\$ I used 20# braid, half spooled....
The range is far better than before. I did apply drag grease on the washers...
I'd checked couple curados , citica and caenan from friends,
Suprisingly, most resistance were only about 4-6 lbs....

I guess i'm going to stick back to my old toro for saltwater application......

Dawn · September 06, 2011, 10:54:38 PM

What I'm wondering is if maybe the Scorpion has just a little deeper gear than the other reels that use the drag washers. Email me at info@smoothdrag.com and let's see if we can get this fixed up.

Thanks
Dawn

Nessie Hunter · September 07, 2011, 03:54:00 PM

Often the Carbontex are slightly thinner then stock washers, especially the Under washer..

Easy fix if the Star bottoms out ~ under the Star you should find the Bellville metal washers ( ) bent like this, Add a thin metal washer to either side of them l()l as needed, to keep it from bottoming out.
That should increase the drag considerably.....
Dont even need to take the side pate off...

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