Heddon's Sons 100 spin cast

[JeffG]

Good evening all!

     I know it's not a typical spinning reel, but I'm stumped. I took this reel apart to clean and I for the life of me can't figure out how the anti-reverse works.

      The main gear bushing is smooth, nothing for any kind of dog or alike. I just don't see what the spring does. I'm assuming there is something missing and can't find a schematic. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Jeff

[Gfish]

Cool, a worm gear spincaster. A tuff looking reel. Sorry no idea about AR. Did you reassemble it and the AR didn't work?

[JeffG]

Cool, a worm gear spincaster. A tuff looking reel. Sorry no idea about AR. Did you reassemble it and the AR didn't work?

Never did work. The thing is crazy smooth. The main gear is at least a quarter inch thick and surprisingly plastic.

[happyhooker]

Guy on another site claimed the 100 had a roller clutch AR.  Can't confirm.  Have tried to get a schematic myself with no luck.  This reel was only on the market a few years.  Plastic gear was supposedly prone to crack.

Frank

[oldmanjoe]

I woulds say it`s missing a ball bearing .  Fits on the left side spring .

[JeffG]

I woulds say it`s missing a ball bearing .  Fits on the left side spring .

Thanks! I swear I've worked on a reel that had something similar before. I just can't remember the exact way it worked.

Thanks
Jeff

[Gfish]

Very interesting design as spincasters go. I'm tempted to get one, but can't live with a plastic main gear. The Pflueger Pelican spinner I recently got has a plastic main with a DAM Quick—-like AR ratchet—-molded into the back side, and yeah, it doesn't hold due to mangling from the spring loaded pawl.
Interested to see if you figure it out...

[JeffG]

Very interesting design as spincasters go. I'm tempted to get one, but can't live with a plastic main gear. The Pflueger Pelican spinner I recently got has a plastic main with a DAM Quick—-like AR ratchet—-molded into the back side, and yeah, it doesn't hold due to mangling from the spring loaded pawl.
Interested to see if you figure it out...

I didn't get a chance to take pics and don't want to take it back apart, but was able, thanks to a p/m from one fella and a reply earlier in this post, take an old useless bearing and got a ball bearing to fit and all is well for now. It's almost the original instant A/R!

    The gear is very robust, at least a quarter of an inch and the teeth a pretty deep, so I think it would take some serious misuse to strip those. As for the cracking I've read about, I can't say, but I have confidence in it.

Thanks
Jeff

[Midway Tommy]

This pic is the 200 Underspin model from the same basic design & timeframe. It looks like you are missing the little stud that holds the end of the spring. You can see the natural metal on your 100 model where that post was/should be. The stud is also shown in the catalog description pic/drawing.

BTW, the 1966 Heddon Catalog states that the AR is roller lock and woks instantly.
   

[Gfish]

Alright Tommy! Interesting. I see how it works. Kinda like an AR roller clutch bearing with only one roller.

[JeffG]

This pic is the 200 Underspin model from the same basic design & timeframe. It looks like you are missing the little stud that holds the end of the spring. You can see the natural metal on your 100 model where that post was/should be. The stud is also shown in the catalog description pic/drawing.

BTW, the 1966 Heddon Catalog states that the AR is roller lock and woks instantly.
   

Yep. It looks like it's the shape of a lollipop that fits inside of the spring, am I right? The ball bearing I have in there now works, but will most likely pop out anytime I remove the gear and then it turns into Where's Waldo, lol!

Thanks
Jeff