712z Bail Wire?

[jgp12000]

I recently got a 712z and was noticing the bail wire(24-712) looks different than most I have seen?I did find one photo of a newer model that had the same bail wire.I am just curious if it came that way from the factory?It works fine,it also looks different than the schematic?

[Woodpuppy]

Newer versions had the different bail/line bearing, plastic housing side plate, and rubberized handle. It all works just fine, but I tend to prefer the original.

[jgp12000]

Thanks for the info

[foakes]

Someone may have used a different bail as a replacement, or modified one to fit.  As long as it works?

I checked my inventory of 712 bails —- and they are all the same.

No variations.

Best, Fred

[Midway Tommy]

Better and more pics would tell a lot more, JGP. From that angle it resembles the older Cardinal line guide pivot side. 

[jgp12000]

Tom I found an older post Chester started on his 1st Greenie 712,Ruffy has a photo of his 713 with the newer bail wire.It looks like the same one on the 430SS.

https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,30564.0.html

[Midway Tommy]

A comparison of the other side would sure help to figure out the origins.

[jgp12000]

This is the bail wire my 712z came with.

[Midway Tommy]

Interesting. 

[Ruffy]

Hi all, it seems they did change the 712 bail to the newer style as seen on the 4x0 series. The 713 above in jgp12000's post is mine. I bought that bail wire from mystic as the original with the conical guide was rusted.

Great reels, in the world of modern braids I find the 712/713 to be the sweet spot for the fishing I do. Stout, with a good drag, loaded with 30lb braid.

Cheers,
Andrew.

[jgp12000]

Thanks for the update Ruffy,now even that bail wire isn't available from Mystic.I guess it was the latest and greatest at the time.

[Ruffy]

Thanks for the update Ruffy,now even that bail wire isn't available from Mystic.I guess it was the latest and greatest at the time.

Certainly was, I also kept the earlier tungsten carbide roller (dark grey).

The only thing I think would improve it is a bigger handle, but that is future Andrew's problem!

Cheers,
Andrew