Penn 700 vs 704

[foakes]

One on the way, Sir!

Best, Fred

Thanks again Fred, just add it to my total lol!
Maybe I will, get to land a beast of a striper on this reel, this season lol!

Nah, N/C.

Best, Fred

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PM sent , Fred

[foakes]

Already packed and sealed —-

2 Teflon washers, 1 tune up kit, 1 bearing, I handle spacer.

Will ship tomorrow.

Best, Fred

[Surfrat]

Most of us penn 700 or 704(z) owners cut the bail wire close to the roller and smooth the end with sandpaper/file. Don't take your wife's emery file.  This modification will save many lures.   One thing is learn how to pick up the line after your cast and tape your index finger.
 

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Having received  Fred's goodies yesterday morning , I installed the new bearing (added a few drops of oil) and handle washer on the 700.. and made sure to re lube / re grease when during re assembly

A bit better but still not as buttery smooth as the 704 .

Interesting fact, I also received a 710 greenie that I had won on "the" auction site  on a while back.  I cleaned it up and it took performs like the 700 ie. smooth but not whisper quiet / buttery smooth like my 704 .

I checked for main gear / pinion tolerance on all 3 reels  by holding the rotor stationary and trying to move the handle back and forth . They're all about the same ( the 700 might even be the best in that regard !)

More curious than anything , what would cause 1 of these reels to operate better than the others ? They're all good but 1 is better .

I uninstalled  the cross wind on the 712 as an experiment and it didn't make a.diffrence.

So my naive assumption is that it must be something in the crank / handle shaft  or bearing . Do I have to pack these with grease ?

[ExcessiveAngler]

Having received  Fred's goodies yesterday morning .Installed a new bearing (added a few drops of oil) and handle washer on the 700.. and made sure to re lube / re grease when re assemble

A bit better but still not as buttery smooth as the 704 .

Interesting fact, I also received a 710 greenie that I had won on "the" auction site  on a while back.  I cleaned it up and it took performs like the 700 ie. smooth but not whisper quiet / buttery smooth like my 704 .

I checked for main gear / pinion tolerance on all 3 reels  by holding the rotor stationary and trying to move the handle back and forth . They're all about the same ( the 700 might even be the best in that regard !)

More curious than anything , what would cause 1 of these reels to operate better than the others ? They're all good but 1 is better .

I uninstalled  the cross wind on the 712 as an experiment and it didn't make a.diffrence.

So my naive assumption is that it must be something in the crank / handle shaft  or bearing . Do I have to pack these with grease ?

Well, after I completely cleaned and regreased my 704! It felt different and now was super tight, could barely crank it in the cold weather!
So I opened it back up, took all the grease out that I could, and cut/mixed it, with penn precision reel oil! Completely smoothed things right out and back to feeling great again!

[foakes]

Having received  Fred's goodies yesterday morning .Installed a new bearing (added a few drops of oil) and handle washer on the 700.. and made sure to re lube / re grease when re assemble

A bit better but still not as buttery smooth as the 704 .

Interesting fact, I also received a 710 greenie that I had won on "the" auction site  on a while back.  I cleaned it up and it took performs like the 700 ie. smooth but not whisper quiet / buttery smooth like my 704 .

I checked for main gear / pinion tolerance on all 3 reels  by holding the rotor stationary and trying to move the handle back and forth . They're all about the same ( the 700 might even be the best in that regard !)

More curious than anything , what would cause 1 of these reels to operate better than the others ? They're all good but 1 is better .

I uninstalled  the cross wind on the 712 as an experiment and it didn't make a.diffrence.

So my naive assumption is that it must be something in the crank / handle shaft  or bearing . Do I have to pack these with grease ?

Without it on my bench —- it is just 20 questions without a lot of accurate solutions.

Any place there is friction is a possibility.

My method on all spinners involves a full and complete disassemble —- ultrasonic cleaning of all parts —- inspection for any wear spots —- replacement of any questionable parts with new —- burnishing and polishing of all parts inside and outside —- reassembly —- test —- adjust and fine tune —- check all functions to operate as new.

Yes, providing you have cleaned it fully —- it could be the crank axle.  The remedy would commonly be to burnish the axle with a fine wire wheel —- rinse, dry, and lubricate with synthetic oil.

Another common issue is the oilite brass bushing either need burnishing on the INSIDES with "0000" steel wool at high speed —- or to replace the bushing also.  This is common when spinners have been used hard and not lubricated on a regular basis.  Particularly salt spinners.  But even a brand new bushing will need burnishing because of a built up "storage tarnish" —- then some oil.

The reel should be smooth and freely operational.

Best, Fred

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Fred
I think you're right. The insides of some of the bushings might benefit from polishing / burnishing. I'll work on that when I get the itch to tinker .

Thanks for everything