What Penn Reel to Pair with Vintage Bamboo Rods?

Started by Fen, January 04, 2025, 02:50:34 PM

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Fen

Quote from: oc1 on January 06, 2025, 04:33:48 AM"New Jersey Bank Rod" tells you everything you need to know about an appropriate reel.  A 1/0 would look good on it, but I wouldn't fish with them. 

Split bamboo dries out and gets brittle with age.  Keeping the wood oiled will help prevent further degradation but will not bring it back to new condition.

Thank you for the tips! Is " New Jersey Bank Rod" a website?

JasonGotaProblem

#31
You went down an interesting road with this. In theory you're not far off. The reality is in fighting from shore your rod is rarely 90° away from the fish and if it is, you're probably cranking hard. Usually it's pointed more at the fish though there's obviously some pumping while you're reeling.

Bottom fishing from a boat your rod stays probably level with the water a lot so 90° is the starting angle, before you start pumping and reeling. So the angles involved are quite different. Not many worry about whether a surf rod will see line rubbing the blank in a bend because they don't usually see a deep bend. Not the same for boat rods.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Fen

Quote from: oc1 on January 06, 2025, 04:33:48 AMSplit bamboo dries out and gets brittle with age.  Keeping the wood oiled will help prevent further degradation but will not bring it back to new condition.

oc1, thank you for the advice but I think I will hold off on oiling the rods since they look to have a lacquer finish on them that is in excellent condition; possibly because they were stored in a sock in a wooden box that was nailed closed.

Fen

I think maybe this dead horse has been flogged enough.  Again, thanks for everyone's input. I certainly have a greater appreciation for these bamboo rods.

I do have one lingering question though:

Does anyone have any idea what the reasoning was for building a rod with just a tip top and ONE line guide near the tip?

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Take care,
Fen

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One of my son's photos:

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jgp12000

How much did that guy weigh Fen ? I have to ask what lure that is,looks like a huge plastic worm?

Fen

jpg12000, I am not sure, we did not weigh it.  It was my first striper. I would guess it was between 25 and 30 lbs. I was fishing with my son in the stretch of water between Woods Hole and Martha's Vineyard. I will ask my son about the lure.  He does some work for Hogy lures so I suspect it was one of theirs.  I will get back to you😊.

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Fen


oldmanjoe

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Fen

Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 06, 2025, 08:05:45 PMhttps://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15315.0


https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14650.0

Thank you! I followed both links and left a brief inquiry at the second thread on vintage big game rods regarding the unusual placement of the line guides.  The thread has not been active for a while but hopefully it will catch someone's eye😊.

Thanks again,
Fen

oldmanjoe

 Supposedly when lining line was wet and went through algite guides , there was a water fall  at each guide .  This make sense with the longer sticks used for surf casting to reduce guides  for a further cast .    The 5 foot trollers did make sense ,only that it made it easy to flip the stick over during the days fights to avoid bend set .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Fen

Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 06, 2025, 09:05:36 PMSupposedly when lining line was wet and went through algite guides , there was a water fall  at each guide .  This make sense with the longer sticks used for surf casting to reduce guides  for a further cast .    The 5 foot trollers did make sense ,only that it made it easy to flip the stick over during the days fights to avoid bend set .

Makes sense. Thanks!

Fen

#41
Hello All,

I'm just giving you guys a little feedback. 

After about a half dozen or so suggestions from all of you I decided to go with a pair of old Penn 4/0 Senator reels with post frames that I found on-line that look to be in like-new condition. They are not as old as the rods but I don't think they will look out of place: 


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Also decided to not use the rods and put them on display in my shop. 

I thought I would put some old linen line on them if I can find some. 

Thanks to everyone for your input!

Fen

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Fen

Just a little more feedback and a request.

The first Penn 4/0, post-frame reel arrived from England today.  Looks to be unused like the rods.  I think it has all come together pretty well:


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Cleaned up and re-glued the tip-tops:

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The metal I believe is an alloy called nickel-silver or "German Silver".  Very nicely made, I think.

Now the request: I would like to put some linen line on them, anyone know of a good source?

Thanks again everyone for your input!

Fen

Gfish

I like it. The reel goes well with the rod, both are in great looking shape.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

Fen

Thanks Gfish, I am happy with the 113's; I was lucky to find a couple in very good condition.  My next quest for this project is to find some linen line for the reels. 

Fen

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