SoCal Fires

[Classtime]

I fished a local SoCal tailwater stream last week that I have fished regularly for 40 years and have never seen it run so high. This even with no rain since May. The reservoirs are not low. (This a Trout stream. No Smelt.)

[mikeysm]

LA sent all their fire fighting extra equipment to Ukraine.

Mike

[Cor]

Terrible looking images on TV tonight.   Holding thumbs you are all OK and my sympathy's with all those effected.  

[mikeysm]

Gavin Newsome and Karen Bass political careers are over with.

[Ron Jones]

This might be a bit of a vent, but you all are who I would turn to. These places are where I grew up, I know the streets that the satellites are showing don't exist anymore. I have been in a lot of those houses, it is really mind bending.

I don't think there is a solution. Some of those neighborhoods have been through Santa Annas for almost 1.5 centuries. There is to much infrastructure to close together and not enough resources.

People need to move to Wisconsin.

This is rambling, but I'm not certain what to say. Political ridiculousness from any and all is not beneficial, and play time is over. I truly pray that some very smart, capable people get together and figure this out.

Chief 

[jgp12000]

It should be a "woke up" call for everyone literally.It's terrible the innocent citizens have to suffer
The pain & loss for incompetence.
I am done talking,only prayers here on out.

[Rocket Dog]

We just got the power turned back on in Glendora SCE issued a public safety shut off Tuesday early morning. I only lost about 20ft of very old wooden fence that needed to be replaced anyways. The smoke from the Eaton fire is now pushing east. My loss pales in comparison to those who have lost their homes and lives.


This morning my wife asked me if California was still right for us. I don't know at this point. We experience a large hill side wild fire six months after we moved in to our current home 10yrs ago. That was a scary time for us and made me regret moving my family to the suburbs form the our prior urban home.


Stay Safe out there.

Jose


 

[Donnyboat]

Yes we had the same trouble, in Western Australia, a few years back, Yarloop fire, all the fire fighting truck were supposed to fill up, with water, at the sports ground, but the town tank ran out of water, They have all these dams on the side of the hills, some private & some public, you think they could run some pipes to the town tank, and when there is an emergence, just open the valves, & control the water at the town tank, its not rocket science ay, cheers Don.

[JasonGotaProblem]

The fires don't have a party. I design municipal water systems. Water pressure is a complex topic on flat ground add some terrain and it becomes even trickier. To blame this situation on any one thing is folly.

But that doesn't stop bad actors from politicizing it for their own gain.

God bless those affected and watch over those in harms way. I'm done.

[MarkT]

All the water in the world wouldn't help when 60-100mph winds are driving the fire 200 yds a minute.

[pjstevko]

All the water in the world wouldn't help when 60-100mph winds are driving the fire 200 yds a minute.

That's the only truth everyone needs to know!

[oc1]

They've almost worn out the word "apocalypse" this week but this thing is  almost too much to comprehend.  Cali has already been through a couple "never again" state programs relative to fires. Hawaii built their program on what Cali did.  But, wow, this is really going to stick a spur in their side.  It hard to imagine what will come next.

[Crab Pot]

All the water in the world wouldn't help when 60-100mph winds are driving the fire 200 yds a minute.

That's the only truth everyone needs to know!

Gents,

This is undisputably true, However:

What everyone should understand is infostructure failed, fire hydrants had no pressure or not enough to feed the fire fighter's needs. That is 100% avoidable and "whomever" was responsible needs to be held accountable. If a crew of fire fighters had been killed due to no water this sad story would be a whole lot sadder.

I live in the United States of America, not some third world country and this should never happen here.

I heard back from my Cal Fire friend; air assets are starting to make an impact. 

 

[MarkT]

All the water in the world wouldn't help when 60-100mph winds are driving the fire 200 yds a minute.

That's the only truth everyone needs to know!

Gents,

This is undisputably true, However:

What everyone should understand is infostructure failed, fire hydrants had no pressure or not enough to feed the fire fighter's needs. That is 100% avoidable and "whomever" was responsible needs to be held accountable. If a crew of fire fighters had been killed due to no water this sad story would be a whole lot sadder.

I live in the United States of America, not some third world country and this should never happen here.

I heard back from my Cal Fire friend; air assets are starting to make an impact. 

 

Fortunately, I'm well south of the fire areas down in Orange County but you have no clue! No water system in the hills, anywhere, is designed for a 4x normal draw for 15 hours straight. They could've had full pressure the entire time and not saved one of those structures in the Palisades fire. I don't care how courageous you are but when the fire is being blown towards you at those rates you aren't standing your ground unless you have a death wish. You can't save structures if you can't save yourself.

[Keta]

You can only get 10 gallons of shat in a 10 gallon hat and only so much water through pipes and a water system.  Open enough valves and  the largest main will loose pressure.

All the water in the world wouldn't help when 60-100mph winds are driving the fire 200 yds a minute.

The ocean will stop it but there are a lot of homes and businesses in the path.