Magnum vs narrow

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Swampfox

Thoughts on Jigmaster magnum 99 vs a narrowed  Senator 113H?

Maxed Out

#1
 They're both the same width, and same gear train. The narrowed 113h (yts) will have more line capacity

 That's it in a nut shell
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Gfish

I think the Mag. 99 would maybe?, be lighter in weight, balanced better in hand and battling a fish or snag, and you might not need the excess line capacity if using braid.
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Bill B

I have fished the JM magnum at Cedros for YT and the 113H narrow on the SOA.  The Magnum is a beast for the size.  If I was casting, yo-yo-ing, or flylining a single speed all day I would  choose the Magnum.  Lighter and smaller diameter.  Just my 2 centavos.  Bill
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CooldadE

#4
By narrow 113H do you mean a YTS size or the special run XN model Randy offered us ?

Cool
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ExcessiveAngler

I'll tell ya. you guys got me a little confused. I don't have all the widths and nicknames down for these modified reels. Just picked up a nice looking Baja Special 113HN in the box. I keep hearing different names thrown around, for the narrow senators, and trying to put it all together lol. The Baja Special go by any other monikers?

Thanks
EA

Swami805

No a 113hn is a completely different beast, the only thing it really shares with the senator 113 is the number. Great reel. It was called a Baja special by Penn. A 113h with a narrow kit was also called a Baja special but not officially, more a width of the reel thing
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MACflyer

Doesn't the Jigmaster Magnum have a 5:1 gear versus stock gear for narrowed 113H?
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Maxed Out

Quote from: MACflyer on August 25, 2025, 02:21:00 AMDoesn't the Jigmaster Magnum have a 5:1 gear versus stock gear for narrowed 113H?

 No, the magnum has same gears as a 113h 3.25/1, but aftermarket 4/1 gears are available. Theres no such thing as 5/1 gears for a 113h. The jigmaster magnum is internally mostly identical to a 113h
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JasonGotaProblem

#9
3 reels on the table now. Why not one of each?

Gotta get that Cortez kit on the Baja though. That's the only way that reel achieves its potential
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ExcessiveAngler

Well, so far I figured out, there's I do believe at least four iterations? Is yellowtail special, also referred to as the Baja special? Then Penn came out with their Baja special factory models. And apparently the US penn senator, is also referred to as the Baja special? Oh boy, lots more reading lol. Gotta break out some penetrating oil first!

EA

day0ne

#11
Quote from: ExcessiveAngler on August 25, 2025, 04:35:03 AMWell, so far I figured out, there's I do believe at least four iterations? Is yellowtail special, also referred to as the Baja special? Then Penn came out with their Baja special factory models. And apparently the US penn senator, is also referred to as the Baja special? Oh boy, lots more reading lol. Gotta break out some penetrating oil first!

EA

The Baja Special was the forerunner of the Penn US Senators; however, the Penn US Senators are available in 3 different sizes, narrow (Baja Special size), regular (sort of 113H size), and wide and the Baja Special only came in one size. The YTS or Yellowtail Special is a narrow 113H with an Accurate or Tiburon frame and 4:1 gears and the 113HXN is an extra narrow 113H with a frame that Randy had made.

If you want confusion, the various sizes and models of the Jigmaster is a good place to start
David


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ExcessiveAngler

Hate to keep hijacking this thread! But I just picked up this Penn Baja special 113hn, relatively cheap and want to make sure that this looks right? First time, I had any of these Penn Senators apart, and been a while since I opened any Penns. I'm thinking it looks damaged, but could absolutely be wrong. But I'm go with my gut and say that my cheap reel, just got not so cheap?

EA

Rancanfish

Probably right. I have two Baja Specials with the must have Cortez Conversions bridge. If you hear one working as you turn the handle you will forever recognize if your Baja has been converted. So smooth. Makes it a $250 reel worth every dime if you ask me.
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Swampfox

Quote from: CooldadE on August 25, 2025, 01:13:46 AMBy narrow 113H do you mean a YTS size or the special run XN model Randy offered us ?

Cool
closer to YTS