Braided Line for Dock Queens?

Started by jgp12000, September 29, 2025, 06:16:17 PM

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jgp12000

This weekend my grandson had a bass break 10lb braided line,not sure the brand it's been so long.I have began replacing all the line on my dock queens with braided line as needed.I know this topic has come up before,but I am curious which line or braid material is best for UV exposure? Power Pro has some good reviews regarding UV.

AI listed some of the materials used now & I must decypher what brand uses what & best for a combo that is exposed year round.

Key Materials
Ultra-High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE): The primary material used for modern braided lines.
Dyneema and Spectra: These are well-known brand names for fibers made from UHMWPE. They are exceptionally strong and have a low density.
Izanas: A newer, strong fiber gaining popularity, used in some high-end braided lines.
Dacron: An older, synthetic fiber, also used in some braided lines.
Natural fibers: In the past, lines were made from natural fibers like cotton and linen, but these have been almost entirely replaced by synthetics.

quang tran

I don't know what is dock queen .I use mono for all under 10 lbs line and replace quite often

Keta

UHMWPE is highly resistant to UV.

I would not go lower than 30# for Spectra.
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jgp12000

"Dock Queens" are the combos I keep  on my dock 24/7,I keep my nicer ones in the shop & rotate to the golf cart rod holder as
Needed.

thorhammer


MACflyer

Have Yo-Zuri, Daiwa J-4 and J-8, Spiderwire Stealth, and Powerpro, all 4-5 years old, on several reels. By far the Powerpro is holding up best, followed by the Daiwa J-4.
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1. Fish where the fish are
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oc1

#6
Besides UHMWPE and Dacron, the other synthetic polymer used for fishing line is Nylon.  Nylon can be either braided or extruded into a monofilament.

These days, the norm is either braided UHMWPE (commonly just called "braid") or monofilament nylon (commonly just called "mono").  "Braid" is smaller diameter so more line will fit on the reel.  With it's larger diameter, "mono" is easier to handle. 

It is the nature of all synthetic polymer chain materials to break down when exposed to UV.  Because of their density, nylon and regular polyethylene brakes down much sooner then UHMWPE, but it too will eventually deteriorate in sunlight.

Those cheap neoprene reel covers shade the line and keep the rain off.

jurelometer

#7
I would argue that for this particular use case, all UHMWPE braids are going to be about the same, and just use whatever you can get a deal on.

Izanas is just another UHMWPE fiber. 

There are just a couple of companies that make the actual base UHMWPE fibers, and then a bunch of companies that spin up and braid the fibers,  and a gazillion companies that order up the product and stick their own label on it.  The difference is mostly in the specifics of weave ordered, and how high a level of quality the buying brand is willing to pay for.  There are only minor differences in the flavors of the base fibers.  There area few products where the weave is fused. I have no experience with these.

The basic properties of all modern UHMWPE braid products are going to be the same.  It will get UV damaged if left unprotected over a long time, but since it is opaque, only the out layers exposed to the sun will get damaged.  That is why they can use Dyneema rope for ridiculously heavy duty marine use.  For your dock queens, the top layer on the spool will protect the remaining line underneath.

For fishing, failure from mechanical damage is probably more likely than UV degradation. There are some threads here on this, but the tradeoff for getting these thin gel-spun fibers that are very strong along the length is that they become very brittle across the fiber, having fairly poor compressive strength.  I have weakened the front 30' or so of braid just by repeatedly casting a heavy lure with a short nylon mono leader. I suspect that this is caused by the fibers in the weave pressing across each other. Knots also have a limited lifespan for this reason.  Getting some silt of fine sand mixed in the weave is probably going to shorten the lifespan further.

I just keep an eye on the front of any braid used for casting.  My braid backing in fly reels has never had to be replaced - I just have to retie the loop at the front every now and then.

Dacron is polyester, and that stuff just plain goes bad in a marine environment,  It is probably not just UV damage.  I have seen plenty of rotted out Dacron deep into the backing of fly reels, but never any bad Spectra/Dyneema. 

-J

jgp12000

I believe the line broke at the hook/knot connection more than likely.