Penn 210M or 310 GTi for Descender Reel

Started by MACflyer, July 31, 2026, 09:26:24 PM

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Gfish

Can't help but think that tiny hemorrhages in the fishes more sensitive tissues maybe not so visible to the fisherman, might slowly kill them from the pressure damage. If the affected critter swims off after release, who's to know? The sea will take care of it. I've heard a mild squeeze on the wrong part of a fish's body while being handled for release can do the deed. Supposedly the liver can easily be damaged.
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JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: Gfish on August 11, 2026, 07:23:01 PMCan't help but think that tiny hemorrhages in the fishes more sensitive tissues maybe not so visible to the fisherman, might slowly kill them from the pressure damage. If the affected critter swims off after release, who's to know? The sea will take care of it. I've heard a mild squeeze on the wrong part of a fish's body while being handled for release can do the deed. Supposedly the liver can easily be damaged.
I argued with a coworker about something similar as he was showing a picture of a trout that he had released, and in the pic his thumb was buried in that poor fishes gill. I said maybe don't do that if you're releasing the fish. "He swam away"

Yeah I bet I could still run away (for a short distance) with a punctured lung if I thought the monstrous creature holding me had accidentally lost their grip for a second. Doesn't mean I'm not damaged.
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Keta

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Trout and salmon are really sensitive to mishandling and really should be left in the water if releasing them.

ODFW tagging studies indicate there is some survival with fish suffering from barotrauma but not a high %.  I think it is over 50% mortality after 24 hours.

https://myodfw.com/articles/rockfish-recompression

"DON'T VENT

Some anglers may have heard about "venting", or puncturing a fish's body or the protruding esophagus to allow gas to escape and the fish to swim down on its own. This is not recommended as it can cause serious injury or introduce infection to the fish. Keeping the fish intact and sending it down below 66 feet gives it the best chance of survival."


This study says 40%mortality after 48 hours.
https://academic.oup.com/icesjms/article/78/9/3230/6378054?login=false

This one says 50%-90% survival rate.
https://www.scienceforconservation.org/products/post-release-survival-rockfishes

Both are higher survival rate than what the ODFW observed.
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MACflyer

Speckled trout are really sensitive to handling, even their slime coat. Replaced treble hooks with single hooks on all my lures to make their release boat side faster and easier.
Rick

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1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

jurelometer

Quote from: MACflyer on August 11, 2026, 09:14:11 PMSpeckled trout are really sensitive to handling, even their slime coat. Replaced treble hooks with single hooks on all my lures to make their release boat side faster and easier.
Friends don't let friends fish trebles.

:d


Have you tried barbless too?  I started going barbless with saltwater flies, and am now doing it more and more with conventional gear.  Much easier to release, and not much of a difference in landing vs. losing fish.  The barb only helps when the line is slack.

-J

MACflyer


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Friends don't let friends fish trebles.

:d


Have you tried barbless too?  I started going barbless with saltwater flies, and am now doing it more and more with conventional gear.  Much easier to release, and not much of a difference in landing vs. losing fish.  The barb only helps when the line is slack.

-J
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Yes J, just about all my inshore barbs are crushed in. Really haven't noticed a big difference as I lose about 1 of every 3 or 4 fish anyways 😂. Still using barbs with the circle hooks offshore.
Rick

Two rules on the boat
1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

Keta

Quote from: jurelometer on August 12, 2026, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: MACflyer on August 11, 2026, 09:14:11 PMSpeckled trout are really sensitive to handling, even their slime coat. Replaced treble hooks with single hooks on all my lures to make their release boat side faster and easier.
Friends don't let friends fish trebles.

 The barb only helps when the line is slack.

-J

Or with bait.  I wish barbless C hooks were more common.  Barbs on a C hook are useles.

A lot of people complain about loosing salmon using the mandatory barbless hooks for them in Oregon but it is their problem not the hookks.
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oc1

Quote from: Keta on August 12, 2026, 05:17:00 PMThe barb only helps when the line is slack.


Tight lines everybody and remember. fish have feelings too.

boon

I think it's Peter Pakula that has strong feelings about barbs not being all that useful for keeping a fish on the line, but he said you have to sell the hook to the fisherman before you can hook a fish with it, and most anglers won't buy a barbless hook.

Gfish

I don't but that's what a pair of pliers are sometimes for. I like a barb that becomes a raised area of the hook and I sometimes file that smoother.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!