Size of Opening on 113 "wide" style side plate?

johndtuttle · October 09, 2012, 01:55:25 AM

hey all,

wondering is some schmartie out there has a pair of Calipers and one of the older style 113H side plates that has the "large opening" where the handle exits the body and if they could tell me precisely how big the opening is?

Thanks for all replies.

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redsetta · October 09, 2012, 02:03:45 AM

G'day John,
From memory, it's ~28mm.
I can confirm more precisely this evening after work, if it's still required.
Cheers, Justin

john2244 · October 09, 2012, 02:22:08 AM

My old calipers and old eyes came up with

1 3/16" or approx 30mm.
John

johndtuttle · October 09, 2012, 02:27:23 AM

Thanks to you both. In continuing with my "Tank" build I am looking to see if a bearing is available to fit that instead of the stock sleeve (ie like a Baja Special that uses a bearing there).

As long as I have you gentleman's attention could you confirm the dimensions of the gear sleeve. I believe it should be ~1/2".

Thanks so much for taking the time.

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Alto Mare · October 09, 2012, 02:33:28 AM

Lets keep adding dimentions, whoever comes up with the same numbers, that would be it

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My numbers are: 28.70mm / 1.130 inch.

john2244 · October 09, 2012, 02:33:57 AM

Yes, the ID is approx. 1/2"

John

johndtuttle · October 09, 2012, 02:43:45 AM

Thx so much for taking the time.

many thanks.

best regards

George4741 · October 09, 2012, 03:38:19 AM

My sideplate opening is 1.150 inch.
The gear sleeve is .496 inch

johndtuttle · October 09, 2012, 02:58:46 PM

Thx for that gentlemen.

I had a conversation with Alan a bit ago and he seemed to think Penn did have some tolerance variance as we are seeing. Seems as though having a "narrow" side plate milled out by a competent machinist might be the way to go. There are sealed bearings commonly available that are 0.500 x 1.125 x 0.312 that should be my next experiment in adding a bearing to support the handle once I line up the milling of the side plate.

best and thanks again.

Keta · October 09, 2012, 03:00:56 PM

You can bed a bearing in a loose fit using epoxy and a mold release.

BTW, Penn tolerances are large but that's one of the things that make them keep working.

johndtuttle · October 09, 2012, 07:38:39 PM

Quote from: Keta on October 09, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
You can bed a bearing in a loose fit using epoxy and a mold release.

BTW, Penn tolerances are large but that's one of the things that make them keep working.

Thanks for that Keta, something to consider.

As a machinist do think there is any reason that a "narrow opening" side plate couldn't be easily milled out to that dimension (1.125")? It would have to be perfectly centered to accommodate the shaft and bearing and not throw things off.

Any interest in this little project?

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