Hi from Oregon

[ThunderToad]

Lee- Thank you for the help. I will try a loop to loop top shot. I am aware of the humps you speak of West of GB, I use to fish them frequently, now I have a hard time justifying the gas to go there for a couple of lings. i wish it was different. I do use big pipe jigs, never bait on rock fish. I know that some of the better charter outfits are starting to use the release devices. A certain few from GB are still behind the times. It is my opinion that shrimp flies are more likely to catch yellow eye when used above a large jig, it seems when I did catch them that they bit the shrimp fly. For that reason I no longer use shrimp flies, Also I found that I don't limit out so fast and I get to fish longer Often it is just myself on board and I like to make my time out there last as long as I can.

[Ron Jones]

Pipe jigs are my all time favorite bottom fishing bait. It amazes me every time I catch something on a big piece of copper pipe filled with lead.

Ron

[Dominick]

Pipe jigs are my all time favorite bottom fishing bait. It amazes me every time I catch something on a big piece of copper pipe filled with lead.

Ron

Ron:  You threw me with this comment.  Please post a photo of a copper pipe jig.  I am not familiar with this.  Thundertoad I don't mean to take the thread so if you can help, please do.  Dominick

[Ron Jones]

Dom,

I'll see about finding a picture. Envision a piece of copper water pipe 6-8 inches long or so with holes drilled through it for two pieces of wire and a whole on the end that will be on the "top" of the jig. Big trebles are ran through the wire and a split ring is run through the top to attach the main line. Once all rigged the pipe is filled with molten leg the same way you cast a bullet an d when it is cool you have a pipe jig. You bounce it off the bottom and catch ling cod.

Ron

[Dominick]

I went to Google and found some photos. They are kind of cool.  Lots of information on homemade lures.  Dominick

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/7/DSC_0030.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/2009/07/08/droppin-the-hammer/&h=480&w=722&sz=114&tbnid=JdOIVFYyAFj67M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=135&zoom=1&usg=__Mungy1_fSC-mRl5UrpWT7wUw1fw=&docid=e-8or3oGoqiK7M&sa=X&ei=G-LYUbeKC6n3igKap4CwDg&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAA&dur=621

[Ron Jones]

I've seen people put hoochies and beads and all that on pipe jigs. Even seen them work, but mine have always worked without them so I've never seen the need.

Ron