Bellevilles

[turboal]

which add more drag ()() or ((() or ((()) or (()()) ? or how else to stack them for Penn reels. or do i need to add a shim /washer between ()I()

[Keta]

(())

[josa1]

I was just tinkering with a Shimano 50W which had 6 washers arranged ()()() which gave 24 at strike and only 29-32 at full.  I tried a couple of different ways and found that adding a 7th washer and arranging them (())(() gave me more drag than I needed, 28 at strike, 46-48 at full while maintaining free spool.  After that I tried adding an 8th washer but I would have had to remove a spacing washer that was placed against the spool bearing in order to maintain free spool and I didn't want to do that.  It would be interesting to hear what results you get and I hope you post your findings.

josa1

[turboal]

Keta, if i do that the stack will be shorter in height the factory ()()  will i need to add another belleville
(())) to make it the same ?

what's the diff between (()) and ((()

[Keta]

(()) is 2 washers (( thick ((() is one washer ) thick.  (())) will work.

[Bryan Young]

the true answer is....it depends on how many belleville washers will fit and what is the thickness of each washer.

[RowdyW]

which add more drag ()() or ((() or ((()) or (()()) ? or how else to stack them for Penn reels. or do i need to add a shim /washer between ()I()

If you are trying to stack them in a Senator it will not work.

[Keta]

I have been able to get 2 bellviles on Senators, ().  Sometimes under the side plate sometimes under the star (thanks again for the tip Bryan).

[Bryan Young]

I have been able to get 2 bellviles on Senators, ().  Sometimes under the side plate sometimes under the star (thanks again for the tip Bryan).

You're welcome Lee.  We all have found little tips here and there. 

[RowdyW]

Hi Lee, by the time I put all the new drags & washers into the reel I never have any room for extra washers, let alone two bellevilles facing each other. Even with the star backed off I usually still have a very slight drag, but not enough to worry about. The space it takes to put them () just isn't there. I haven't run into any reels with that much room yet.     Rudy    

[Keta]

I use super thin metal washers and .020 CF washers.

[RowdyW]

I use super thin metal washers and .020 CF washers.

OK, I have been using the stock thickness washers except in a couple of Sealine reels where its a tight squeeze changing from a 1+3 to a 1+5 .      Rudy

[Alto Mare]

Maybe you guys are talking about the Belleville on a floating spool, I never seen the Belleville facing each other on a Senator
I usually have the opposite, most time I need to shave the spacer to be able to back the star all the way.
On all  my reels, the spool doesn't move when in gear with the star backed all the way, that's the way I like them to be.

[Keta]

On all  my reels, the spool doesn't move when in gear with the star backed all the way, that's the way I like them to be.

My personal Penn reels are set up with a small amount of pressure when the star is backed off all the way too.

[RowdyW]

Maybe you guys are talking about the Belleville on a floating spool, I never seen the Belleville facing each other on a Senator
I usually have the opposite, most time I need to shave the spacer to be able to back the star all the way.
On all  my reels, the spool doesn't move when in gear with the star backed all the way, that's the way I like them to be.

Sal, my sentiments exactly.         Rudy