SL20SH and X20SHV handles

[Sith Lord]

I've searched and can not find. Are the handles on these two reels interchangable?  The drive shaft part numbers are different on each reel, was not able to get a clear answer by pulling the schematics.

Thank you 

Rob

[Bryan Young]

Yes they are. I believe the difference other than one is black and chrome and the other is black and gold, the X has more bearings for smoother casting

[MarkT]

They also fit the Penn GS reels.  I put the SL handles on my 525, 525 mag, 535, 545 and 555. My 525 mag now has a Torque handle that should fit the Daiwa's too.

[Fish-aholic]

As already mentioned, the handles are easily interchangeable.

Yes they are. I believe the difference other than one is black and chrome and the other is black and gold, the X has more bearings for smoother casting

The main difference between the forementioned models are; the SHV's have a free floating spool, the SL20's have the spools axial passing through the pinion gear. The former has better freespool than the latter. 

[jonathan.han]

The older SL series driveshafts are stainless. The X series are brass.

[Ron Jones]

I don't suppose the drive shafts are interchangeable? The brass shaft and gears are this reels weakest link.
Ron

[jonathan.han]

I believe the driveshafts on the SL were longer than the X series. I tried to use a brass one to replace a steel one on an SL, but the brass shaft was too short. The gears on the SL were a bit beefier and a bit taller. The X series was narrower due to the difference in gear height by a few millimeters. The gear housing on the sideplate was larger in volume on the SL, if that makes any sense.

[jonathan.han]

The thread pitch on the shaft is too fine. Add some salt buildup and too high a drag setting and the star will jump threads or cross thread after the threads have been galled.

[Ron Jones]

The thread pitch on the stainless (SL)is finer or the brass (X)?

Bottom line; is it possible, or advisable, to make a hybrid of this reel with the x casting and the SL stainless shaft and heavy gears? I LOVE my x-20 and would love it more if I could make it stronger.

Ron

[jonathan.han]

Unfortunately, the thread pitch is the same for both the stainless and brass driveshafts. I guess you could swap the SL sideplate, driveshaft, gears over to the X series. I would try to look for the older version if you really like it; they are pretty solid since the steel has less of a chance of weakening threads. If you service them, like most other reels, they should last you decades.

I had one SL and two X-series Sealines the last go around at them about a month or two ago. I tried to swap shafts, but noticed the length difference and stopped there. I did notice the right sideplates were different, but you would be better off sourcing one from eBay/etc. Great little reels-basically a brass driveshaft and gears in a TLD Star/Speedmaster, in a Daiwa version with a "free-floating spool. And here we are talking about the TLD Star once again... Granted, the TLD Star is not as compact as the Sealine. Keep a good amount of grease on the driveshaft of the X series and keep the drag down to a usable level. Anything higher than 8-10lbs of drag and the frame will warp a bit with prolonged use-then you have to file a bit of the frame

[skrilla]

What is the vintage of your sloshes? I have one that had a brass drive shaft which got damaged by hammering down too much on a trip. Ordered a replacement from Daiwa and they sent me another brass one.

Opened up my SHAs and looks to be the same brass material.

[jonathan.han]

Very old. I think they changed the driveshaft halfway through the production run of the non-SHV model due to costs. I have seen only steel in the SL20SH versions I have seen. If you ordered it through Daiwa, that would explain the brass replacement.

[redsetta]

Email Toby - he'll sort ya...
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[Ron Jones]

So,
Just to see I pulled my 20-SHV handle off and the shaft is stainless. I have several other Diawa conventionals and this is the only stainless shaft I have found. Will look at the gears soon, still fishing it now.

Ron