Penn 16S speculations

[coastal_dan]

The 16S has very interesting gearing (to me) which makes it a very suitable little reel.  In an age of Super High Speed 2 speed reels with really low low gears this one has a respectable 4.5:1 high with a 2:1 low. 

[steelfish]

I asked cuz I have a guy offering me on in good shape, not too cheap but at a good price considering the original price tag.
but I dont see many situations where I would want to use the penn 16s over a Baja or fathom 40ld2

grouper fishing came to mind for the tank build but also read bigger than 60#-80# leader in not recommended 

local gruper fishing line used is 100-130# braid and 200# mono leader for abrasion purposes and for the Tug war

[coastal_dan]

You could note that the reels in your comparison are sort of 'from a different age' - 16S is a +/-15 lb drag reel, where as the Baja/113N can do 20lb + all day with a little room to spare and the Torque goes above and beyond that.  But there are 20+ years of design changes/updates between these reels.  

I was going through a similar dilemma Alex, I wanted a second tilefish reel for those bruisers down deep.  I needed 700 yds of 50 lb braid.  My 113N has the upgrades and about 550 yds of 65 lb JB.  With the trips being 24, 36, 48 hours I wanted a back up just in case.  The 16S was in my top 3 because of the 4.5:1 high gear, but the price was still very steep for drag numbers not that much higher than a worked Jigmaster.  I ended up getting a 40NLD single speed with the 4.8:1 (and 40 in per crank) brand new for $187 shipped.  I'm testing it in 3 weeks so I'll let you know.  Not looking forward to the cost of all that brand this Sunday am though, haha!

Edit: After I posted this I forgot to add one of my biggest deciding factors...reel weight.  The 40NLD was only 25 oz or so...where was the 16s was just under 50 oz...

[steelfish]

Ybut the price was still very steep for drag numbers not that much higher than a worked Jigmaster.  

my point exactly.

seems like I will pass on this 16s international, which is beautiful and feels like a brick (in strength and weight haha).

[coastal_dan]

I was really hoping that the new 12VSX would have a bit lower high gears...like 4.5:1 High and a 2.3:1 Low.  That would be a fantastic gear train in a little reel.  But alas, I'll stick with what I've got and I'm darn happy the US Senator and 40NLD have sub 5.0:1 gears. 

[steelfish]

.........d I'm darn happy the US Senator and 40NLD have sub 5.0:1 gears. 

same here Dan

Baja Special and Ft 40NLD2 will handle everything that swims locally... except if a Golliat grouper want to play, those things are massive, but not really want to kill anyone of those giants so, my guns are perfect as is.

[steelfish]

Ybut the price was still very steep for drag numbers not that much higher than a worked Jigmaster.  

my point exactly.

seems like I will pass on this 16s international, which is beautiful and feels like a brick (in strength and weight haha).

well, at the end I couldnt pass on a new offer for that reel 
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22537.0