Ted's Teasors : From the Back . Long beach #60 , #65 & a wide #65
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The Wide #65
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Ted's 'How To "
Its a 200 seat (jigmaster, surfmaster) and frame posts and a Standard 3/0 senator spool....60 or 65 plates both work. A non clamp seat would be the 155 that would fit in also. I like the clamp seat
I'm still flabbergasted about how smooth this wide 65 is. Likely has lots to do with the stainless 3/0 spool.
Wow! Those are pristine. Dominick
All of Ted's reels are pristine, I believe he manufactures his own ;D.
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 24, 2015, 01:44:56 AM
All of Ted's reels are pristine, I believe he manufactures his own ;D.
Yep, I admit it. I use a 3D printer to make all my reels. ;D
QuoteAll of Ted's reels are pristine, I believe he manufactures his own Grin.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
A LongBeach,
by any other name,
still as sweet.
Beautiful reels!
Wow! those look newer than new.
If I had anything that clean on one of my shelves, I would look for the proper owner because I know It could not be mine.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 24, 2015, 06:48:34 AM
If I had anything that clean on one of my shelves, I would look for the proper owner because I know It could not be mine.
Beg your pardon Sir Mike, but rumor has it you have the nicest anniversary 114H in the known universe and a few dozen other stunning reels, and yours are all original, while mine are manufactured in my root cellar.
Quote from: Max Doubt on November 24, 2015, 02:06:17 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 24, 2015, 01:44:56 AM
All of Ted's reels are pristine, I believe he manufactures his own ;D.
Yep, and the name of my machine shop is OCD...Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. ;D There, I finally came outta the closet....sorda. :o
The wide 65 is same width as a jigmaster, but the long beach plates and spool are slightly larger diameter. Newly christened as the "400yd long beach 65", which is same yardage as the bulkier long beach 66. Too bad Penn never marketed these wide 65's, I bet they would have sold them by the truckload. I have plans to build a couple more and put them to use.
I was playing around some years back when I first started tinkering with reels and found whoa, Penn stuff is interchangeable....the 65 frankepen from spare parts was my first such i think. Cool little reel.
QuoteBeg your pardon Sir Mike, but rumor has it you have the nicest anniversary 114H in the known universe and a few dozen other stunning reels, and yours are all original, while mine are manufactured in my root cellar.
Some of those rumors are true. I do have one of the finest 114H reels on Earth, That is because I bought from a very compulsive individual, I have nothing to do with its creation>>>> ;D
You know Ted, this makes it number two. You put my name tag all over the reel and then you give it away to someone else, what's up with that? I thought me and you were tighter than that ::);D
oh well, at least I got my Tuna, can't eat a fishing reel ;)....
He is always moving reels Sal. He is not like us. ;)
That Jalapeno Tuna of his was Delicious!
I gave him a handle for a 10/0 he had.
Then I turned around and bought the reel. ;D
Quote from: Max Doubt on November 24, 2015, 02:06:17 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 24, 2015, 01:44:56 AM
All of Ted's reels are pristine, I believe he manufactures his own ;D.
Yep, and the name of my machine shop is OCD...Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. ;D There, I finally came outta the closet....sorda. :o
The wide 65 is same width as a jigmaster, but the long beach plates and spool are slightly larger diameter. Newly christened as the "400yd long beach 65", which is same yardage as the bulkier long beach 66. Too bad Penn never marketed these wide 65's, I bet they would have sold them by the truckload. I have plans to build a couple more and put them to use.
Man, that would hold a heap of 50lb braid, wouldn't it?
Very nice looking reel.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on November 25, 2015, 04:49:17 AM
He is always moving reels Sal. He is not like us. ;)
The one you just got had my name tag all over it as well before he contacted you ;D...enjoy it buddy ;)
Ted is still alright with me, I'm just messing with him... we go way back.
Me too. He is one of the Good Guys. ;)
QuoteYou know Ted, this makes it number two. You put my name tag all over the reel and then you give it away to someone else, what's up with that? I thought me and you were tighter than that Roll EyesGrin
OK. I can see I have opened a can of worms here, unintentionally. I had no idea that reel was promised to you Sal. I am innocent of all back door dealing here. I can honor Ted's commitment and bring peace back to the homestead here in the world previous promises. Just PM me and we will work out a deal. Sorry, but, my deals do not include little jars of scrumptious tuna fish. ;D
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 25, 2015, 06:08:48 AM
QuoteYou know Ted, this makes it number two. You put my name tag all over the reel and then you give it away to someone else, what's up with that? I thought me and you were tighter than that Roll EyesGrin
OK. I can see I have opened a can of worms here, unintentionally. I had no idea that reel was promised to you Sal. I am innocent of all back door dealing here. I can honor Ted's commitment and bring peace back to the homestead here in the world previous promises. Just PM me and we will work out a deal. Sorry, but, my deals do not include little jars of scrumptious tuna fish. ;D
No, not at all Mike, you don't have anything to apologize about, besides, I don't know much about your reel.
As said above, I was only messing with my buddy. ;D
I have my share of Anniversary reels, I started collecting those a long time ago, I'm all set!
Sorry Ted, we pulled away from your beautiful Long Beach reels. Those are beautiful.
Sal
Ok you guys, now here is how it went down. I had the 114H listed on the big auction site, but decided to see if a friend wanted it (minus ebay fees), so I offered it to Dom, Sal, and Daron, but in my haste, I did not consider that it was almost midnight on the other coast. Well, Daron musta been burning the midnight oil cause he replied right away and pounced on the "friends" only price that was so low he could not refuse. We have a don't ask don't tell policy on private sales, so this where the story ends....except for something up my sleeve...........maybe.
Mike, your boxed 114H red reel is irreplaceable in its condition, you may regret letting that one go.
Sal, this thread can go its own direction, it's all good. I just wanted to share the info about how simple it is to make a 65W. So if a 60 is 250yds, and a 65 is 300yds, then the 65W would be 350yds.
Hey folks I just opened a thread specifically to address Anni reels; please comment!
QuoteMike, your boxed 114H red reel is irreplaceable in its condition, you may regret letting that one go.
Oh Nooooooooo!. It is not for sale. The offer was only to Sal as a Peace Offering that I can now see was not needed. That reel is holding a "Holy Grail" position as we speak. I have raised it to a level of Sainthood..................................<:O)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 25, 2015, 08:37:13 PM
QuoteMike, your boxed 114H red reel is irreplaceable in its condition, you may regret letting that one go.
Oh Nooooooooo!. It is not for sale. The offer was only to Sal as a Peace Offering that I can now see was not needed. That reel is holding a "Holy Grail" position as we speak. I have raised it to a level of Sainthood..................................<:O)
Ha ha, Mike that reel is yours to do as you please. A good wholesale price for a friend would be $500 ;) ;)
So, I love the 3/0, but I don't really see how this isn't making a 3/0. Maybe a different main gear (60 vs 65) but with Bryans stack I don't think that would matter. Really cool idea, I'm just wondering if I'm missing something?
Ron
I got it, the stand is different. I don't know that you could put one of these together for less than just buying a 3/0, but pretty cool none the less.
Ron
The LB has a lower gear ratio than a 3/0 if for some reason you need that.
Quote from: noyb72 on November 26, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
I got it, the stand is different. I don't know that you could put one of these together for less than just buying a 3/0, but pretty cool none the less.
Ron
If you happen to have an extra 60 or 65 that is laying around collecting dust & have a stand & posts from a 500 that you converted all you need is a decent 112 3/0 spool. Or shop ebay for a deal on parts. Maybe you could ask some of the members here if they want to donate to your project or sell parts cheap. Just some suggestions if you want to try one out. Good luck.
Sure, I don't know that I NEED a franken 3/0, but when has that ever stopped anyone. Scotts says the 3/0 is slower at 2.25. It would be cool to put one of these together with a Newell stand, especially if Jigmaster bars would fit. Apparently there is such a thing as a 29L-112. Probably made of Hens teeth but it could be an interesting reel. Especially for dragging a plastic slow on the bottom.
Ron
Ron, Jigmaster bars don't fit, almost but not quite (been there,tried that). You have to use posts. I don't think I would waste a Newell stand on one but it is unique to have one or two. I went through my Penn spare parts and came up with enough for three but I'm short two spools. I've got one coming for $8, now I just need one more. Posts are easy to find, you can use 500,200,113 4/0, 113h,etc. There's always 200 & 500 stands around. If you think that you want to build one I've got an extra 200/500 stand to start you off. Time for a scavenger hunt. ;D Rudy
[/quote]If you happen to have an extra 60 or 65 that is laying around collecting dust & have a stand & posts from a 500 that you converted all you need is a decent 112 3/0 spool.
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Yahtzee !! That's exactly right. I'm sure there are lots of members that have those jigmaster parts collecting dust from a frame conversion.
Yes, it is basically a 3/0 without the outer rings and missing 2 posts, but what that does is change the center of gravity and makes it a very smooth and very well balanced reel. Smooth as silk.
I also put these parts onto a Delmar which has no chrome rings in or out, and that is a smooth reel also. The 60 & 65 LB are basically same as a Delmar 285, so take your pic, they all get widened with these same parts. ;)
They are also the same as a 85. If I ever did do one of these that is the reel I would start with. Is the post spacing the same as a surfmaster?
Ron
Yes, These frame posts- surfmaster 200, jigmaster 500, long beach 67, 112,113 (&H's), 155, monofil 25,.... will all make the wide 65. Those seats all work also, except the 3 screw senator seats.
Might call for experimenting with a few of the Long Beaches in the spare parts bins that I restored last year back to stock.
Have mostly 60s (10), a few 65, 66, 67, 68.
Might be fun to try a few variations.
See what can be made.
Best,
Fred
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You're only limited by the spools Fred. It's all about same diameter to be interchangeable.
Today I made a narrow 3/0 senator. It now sports the 65 spool. Try that one on for size !! ;) ;)
Ted,
That sounds like the ever elusive 2.5/0 (112A). Kinda fills a gap. Surprising Penn never thought to market this 'new model'.
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*Photos are of Ted's wonderful creation.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on November 28, 2015, 03:18:00 AM
Ted,
That sounds like the ever elusive 2.5/0 (112A). Kinda fills a gap. Surprising Penn never thought to market this 'new model'.
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*Photos are of Ted's wonderful creation.
WOW!
I thought the 85 spool fit the 2/0? Does the 3/0 use 2 stand screws or three?
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on November 28, 2015, 03:57:10 AM
I thought the 85 spool fit the 2/0? Does the 3/0 use 2 stand screws or three?
Ron
Both the 3/0 and 2/0 use 3 screw stands. BTW the 3/0 stand is the same as the International 12W. This would suggest that the aluminum spacer bars would fit a 3/0.
Quote from: noyb72 on November 28, 2015, 03:57:10 AM
I thought the 85 spool fit the 2/0? Does the 3/0 use 2 stand screws or three?
Ron
The 2/0 is same spool as 285, & 85, and all will interchange with long beach 60. This is not a 2/0 (LB60 width), this narrowed 3/0 is a LB 65 width. It takes a 99 seat to narrow the 3/0, or the same could be accomplished by widening a 2/0. It ends up the same width as a penn 99, but just slightly larger diameter spool than the 99
Nice pics John.
Just think 20 or so years from now somebody is going to get on this site & ask "what have I got?"or "I've got a rarity" or "why is my 60 wider then my 65?". ;D ;D
Amazing stuff Ted ;), a 99 with 4 rings and taller spool makes a nice reel.
I'll take that ashtray though ;D...
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 28, 2015, 05:03:53 AM
Amazing stuff Ted ;), a 99 with 4 rings and taller spool makes a nice reel.
I'll take that ashtray though ;D...
.....and 6 frame posts (a 99 has 4).
I actually made that ashtray too.....most think I only manufacture reels in my root cellar :o. :D
I misread 85 spool not 65. I'm really getting dizzy with the possibilities.
Ron
Good 2.5/0 Ted . That's a Flash parts tray your showing off !
Well..
Dr. Ted...
To quote Mike C..."A magician with the creation of 'MINT'"...Has been at it again...
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He has created a narrowed, '99' width, 4/0. It is the same width as that 3/0, but with a larger diameter. This 113A is truly a 99 on steroids. Guess there are actually 12 different possible sized senators, not just the stock 10 that everyone is familiar with.
Thanks for sharing the photos Ted! Hopefully this doesn't make those '99' stands, and 3/0 spools any harder to come by then they already are ;)
Interesting, I didn't think the Senator and 99 stand holes lined up. Not that there are a bunch of 99 bases floating around but that does increase the opportunities for making Grouper Specials.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on November 28, 2015, 11:55:17 PM
Interesting, I didn't think the Senator and 99 stand holes lined up. Not that there are a bunch of 99 bases floating around but that does increase the opportunities for making Grouper Specials.
Ron
They were just a hair off Ron. All I had to do was enlarge the holes a little for all the holes on the 99 seat to line up. Rest of parts are a LB66.
Ted
There is another senator configuration left to be invented. After narrowing a standard 4/0, I realized the 4/0 could also be widened just like it's high speed brethren the 113H, that was widened to the HLW. By using a 113HLW seat and posts and a long beach 68 spool, you can widen a standard 4/0 senator. Just a thought.
The wide 4/0's were done at the same time as the narrowed Grouper Special along with my changing the gear ratio to 2.4:1. Sal has since then upped it to 2.6:1 & double dogged it.
We talked about this a year or two ago, it's here somewhere in black & white.
The 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
QuoteThe 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
As Ted states.
The wide 4/0 is not as simple as exchanging the Penn 68 spool. You need a 113HLW stand and you can use the cross bars off the Penn 68. Your Penn 68 reel does not have to go to waste after you take the needed parts to widen the 4/0 from it. You can take the heavy duty solid bronze 4/0 spool, use the heavy duty 4/0 cross bars +1 and add a Squidder stand to create a Penn Senator, Model 68.
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Penn Long Beach 4/0 on the left, Penn Senator Model 68 on the right.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 30, 2015, 02:47:20 AM
QuoteThe 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
The wide 4/0 is not as simple as exchanging the Penn 68 spool. You need a 113HLW stand and you can use the cross bars off the Penn 68. Your Penn 68 reel does not have to go to waste after you take the needed parts to widen the 4/0 from it. You can take the heavy duty solid bronze 4/0 spool, use the heavy duty 4/0 cross bars +1 and add a Squidder stand to create a Penn Senator, Model 68.
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Penn Long Beach 4/0 on the left, Penn Senator Model 68 on the right.
Yes I'm aware, just giving the general idea. As mentioned above, this one was talked about a while back, I just don't feel digging for it at the moment.
Sal
The wide 4/0 is not as simple as exchanging the Penn 68 spool. You need a 113HLW stand and you can use the cross bars off the Penn 68. Your Penn 68 reel does not have to go to waste after you take the needed parts to widen the 4/0 from it. You can take the heavy duty solid bronze 4/0 spool, use the heavy duty 4/0 cross bars +1 and add a Squidder stand to create a Penn Senator, Model 68.
[/quote]Don't you mean a Senator Model 67?
QuoteDon't you mean a Senator Model 67?
Nope, you need a Model 68 to match the width of the 113HLW stand.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 30, 2015, 05:58:59 AM
QuoteDon't you mean a Senator Model 67?
Nope, you need a Model 68 to match the width of the 113HLW stand.
But if you use the 4/0 spool & 4/0 cross bars on the LB 68 plates it won't be any wider then a 4/0 or 67 & it would be a LB 67 with a heavy spool. Why a squidder stand when a 67 stand will fit? You need a 68 spool,68 posts,& 113HLW stand on the Senator 4/0 plates which then would be a Senator 4/0 Wide. I think stating it this way is a little more understandable.
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 29, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
We talked about this a year or two ago, it's here somewhere in black & white.
The 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
Sorry about the repeat info Sal. I've been living under a rock somewhere.
In the future I'll just keep my frankenreels to myself and my laboratory. I do have some custom parts being machined right now at a local machine shop,...but likely nothing anyone hasn't seen before
Quote from: Max Doubt on November 30, 2015, 06:45:42 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 29, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
We talked about this a year or two ago, it's here somewhere in black & white.
The 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
Sorry about the repeat info Sal. I've been living under a rock somewhere.
In the future I'll just keep my frankenreels to myself and my laboratory. I do have some custom parts being machined right now at a local machine shop,...but likely nothing anyone hasn't seen before
No Ted, don't you ever stop showing what you got cooking, I just wanted to mention that this one was already talked about.
You know, I tried finding that info and couldn't, maybe I was dreaming.
No, it is here somewhere, but obviously not easy to find, I don't blame you for not seeing it.
Now I'm glad you did refresh it, so the newer guys get that info.
Keep it coming my friend, I'm learning a lot from you and I'm sure so is everyone else.
Thank you Ted!
It was hidden in your Grouper Special thread Sal, towards the bottom of page 2 http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9979.15 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9979.15)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 02, 2014, 02:54:52 PM
I mean a Tib frame you can just slap on a stock 4/0 Black without any other mods.
Yes, as mentioned earlier there are options for the narrow, standard and wide. Tiburon has the frames for all three options.
Scotts has the spools, but the narrow aluminum is not available from Tiburon or Scotts.
The Longbeach 66-67 and 68 will give you the narrow-standard and wide.
Thanks for finding that one, I thought there was one with details.
Anyway, if going with a topless Tiburon frame the combination for making the 113 4/0 in three different sizes, using the longbeach spool would be:
Tiburon topless frame T4N+29-66 spool............narrow
Tiburon topless frame T4+29-113 spool...........standard
Tiburon topless frame T4W+29-68 spool............wide
There are other options as for aluminum spools or metal spools, again just a general idea. it is basically the same concept.
The reason we're mentioning these upgrades is that the 113 black does not have the options as the 113H does.
The 113H is available in 4different sizes, again, based on Tiburon:
T4K narrow-T4 standard-T4W wide and T4Wex extra wide.
Now, here is where it gets a little confusing, if you add Newell into the mix, you might get 2 more sizes, I'm not really sure.
Maybe the guys from Hawaii could chime in on those.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 29, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
We talked about this a year or two ago, it's here somewhere in black & white.
The 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
Sal, I looked at that thread and that particular narrowed 4/0 is done with aftermarket frame. I didn't see your narrowed 4/0 using only penn seat and frame posts.
I am using penn factory parts to narrow these. Seat, posts, etc. My guess is there must be a bit of interest on this subject by looking at the huge number of hits this thread has in just a few days.
Newell "Marlin Special" (between a 4/0 standard and a 4/0 wide) Spool, base, bars.
Newell "Broadbill Special" (I think is the same width as a Tiburon extra wide 4/0)
Quote from: Max Doubt on November 30, 2015, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 29, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
We talked about this a year or two ago, it's here somewhere in black & white.
The 66-67 & 68 spool will give you a narrow- a standard and a wide 4/0.
Sal, I looked at that thread and that particular narrowed 4/0 is done with aftermarket frame. I didn't see your narrowed 4/0 using only penn seat and frame posts.
I am using penn factory parts to narrow these. Seat, posts, etc. My guess is there must be a bit of interest on this subject by looking at the huge number of hits this thread has in just a few days.
And you are absolutely correct! Sorry buddy, I'm a slow learner, it takes me a while ::).
Holy cow, good read. Enjoying this 'Stock Franken-modding'.
So to narrow a 3/0 use longbeach spool and 99 base. Are there any other bases that will work?
Quote from: sharkman on February 01, 2016, 04:56:57 PM
So to narrow a 3/0 use longbeach spool and 99 base. Are there any other bases that will work?
Sharkman, yes a long beach 65 spool and posts. The 65 posts are a very common part and are also found on a 66, 209, 309, 160, 165
The 99 seat is the only one that fits the narrowed 3/0, or widened 2/0 senators.
99 seats are a tough find, but they still pop up now and then. Another option is a donor 99 reel.
Ted
Quote from: sharkman on February 01, 2016, 04:56:57 PM
So to narrow a 3/0 use longbeach spool and 99 base. Are there any other bases that will work?
Please correct me if I am wrong, but that would basically be a 65, which uses a 66 base that has a clamp. I don't think I'd narrow a relatively rare 3/0 Senator to make a 65. If you had a bunch of 99 stands around and a bunch of 3/0s then maybe, but I don't think there are that many around.
Then again, the 3/0 uses the 66 main gear and so you can make a 65 sized reel with enough drag to pull down the Empire State Building. That would be a winch.
To each his own I guess.
Ron
Don't know if that's a compliment or an insult......or maybe both ?
I don't know that I've ever insulted anyone here. Alan has worked to hard to make this such a cool place. Besides, he wouldn't invite me to Cedros in 2018, and my wife wants Yellowtail.
Ron
Yet another great franken-reel thread rediscovered by a relative newbie ;D