Not being a "Penn Guy" I was wondering if this model is collectable. Sure all reels can be collectable but is one that looks almost new, no corrossion, wood handle knob and looks to be a non metal spool worth any money and if so what? I have not seen the reel yet but it has a pic of a lighthouse which assume is a Longbeach and am being told it is from the 1930's time. I would not fish this reel but maybe I hold on to it or flip it. They have been trying to sell it for a bit and have no biters, so I guess I'm asking what do you think a reel like this is worth? If it matters it has black side plates and spool.
This reel was called the Long Beach Deluxe. Its the same width as a Jigmaster 500. It has a 2:5 to 1 ratio. A collector might want it, but honestly, probably about 40 bucks tops if its in great shape. I have seen them go for half that with an aluminum spool.
Mark, as Shark Hunter mentioned there are always a few for sale for around $40, but most are from the mid 50's. The one you've described is from around 1940, those are rare.
I personally wouldn't mind paying around $70 for one of those in great shape, more if it had the box.
Scott has a pic of the 259, that one appears to be from the early 40's.
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn259.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn259.aspx)
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Thanks for the quick response guys their asking $80 and maybe they would take less but it has been for sale for a bit with no biters so I was a bit leery. Like I said I would not look to fish the reel and hech I don't need another reel sitting around doing nothing, so it's going to be a pass.
Again thanks for your input.
EDIT: Sorry I was off on the year they stated. If you guys want to take a look here is the add and it's close to me. If you want it and they wont ship, I'm sure I could get it to you.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/4545318675.html
That's very nice of you Mark, thanks for the offer. He also has it listed on eBay with free shipping, when you said you weren't interested, I gave him an offer...we'll see.
BTW, I also do not need another reel, but this one is nice and should be on a shelf. If anyone is interested, please do not think that you need to hold back because of me, go for it!
you have a link above , here is the eBay link...just in case
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Penn-Fishing-Reel-Model-259-Mid-late-1940s-/291181485690?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cbc4de7a
Sal
I paid $60. for an early model 259 in new condition, no box.
John
Was it the early model with the plastic spool and no #'s?
Thanks John!
For $40, I'd buy it and covert it to a narrow reel (1/0 size reel). It would make an awesome rock cod reel.
Sal,
Not that early. Numbers and a 3 piece spool. If anyone is interested I just took a 259 to a local tackle shop to sell for me. $30.
John
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 04, 2014, 11:23:35 PM
For $40, I'd buy it and covert it to a narrow reel (1/0 size reel). It would make an awesome rock cod reel.
you would probably be better off with the 65, better yet the 66, better main and pinion.
I made that seller an offer but didn't get a respond Undecided. I would have placed it on a shelf though.
The majority of PacNorWest rock cod can be caught just fine with a 1/0. Sometimes you hit a 100 pound halibut in 150ft of water, but not often enough to plan for it.
Ron
I use a Surfmaster 100 for rockfish shallower than 100', and will use a 501 width Surfmaster 250 for under 200'. Deeper I use a 113H Tank or 349H.
Yes the 100 is a nice reel, but I don't like to push it too hard.
With the upgrades available today, the Jigmaster is hard to beat.
We now have 5:1 gear ratio, 4:1 and maybe 2.5:1, but will require some customizing. Maybe when Alan Chui gets caught up, he could make us some 3:1 gears. The lower gear ratio, the larger the pinion...giving it more muscle.
You could get what you need just by changing the plate and it would take less than a minute.
I have many Jigmasters.
Ron, I know you don't like those, you could use the 500s handle side plate.
Our rockfish are in the 2-6 pound range, a very large lingcod might go 20 pounds so the small Surfmasters with Tib frames and SS gearsleves are a good choice. This winter I put .025 titanium and .020 CF drag washers in one, bench testing was impressive. I use my Jigmasters for deeper water and albacore trolling, 501's and ones with 99 width Tib frames. I have one Jigmaster 501 with Alan's double dogged SS bridge a SS gearsleeve and a Tib frame, SS AR dogs that I want to use this season too, hopefully for Pacific halibut inshore.
Yes I know about the titanium washers, you were supposed to send me some, along with some other stuff around that time. I hope you never send those, because I never got them.
I'm still going to say that the 501 is a better choice, you could fish that reel at 12lb and up to 22lb. when needed.
I just tested a jigmaster with 5-149 main and 13-49 pinion, the handle had a 1/4" play, due to the larger notch on the pinion ( nothing that we couldn't fix), but that didn't seem to bother it. I tighten the star as hard as I could and pulled 25lbs of rolling weight by turning the handle. It took very little effort and pulled it very smoothly, gear ratio was 2.5:1.
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 05, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Yes I know about the titanium washers, you were supposed to send me some, along with some other stuff around that time. I hope you never send those, because I never got them.
I was trying to get some acceptable handle arms to send with them and then I broke my hand. The hand is not healing as well as I would like but I will have to deal with it.
Your hand is more important than fishing reels, well to some ;D. As you already know, there is never any hurry, I just wanted to make sure that you didn't send it, I was thinking that maybe it got lost and didn't want to feel like I didn't thank you.
Don't push it too hard, don't do as I do.
I shot a 31/4 " nail through my hand 5 month ago after 40 years doing what I do. I pulled the nail out with my teeth, a little duct tape and back to work I went, but my helper grabbed me and wouldn't let me go until I decided to go to the hospital. They told me to rest it for a week and I asked if they would pay my bills, they said no, so back to work I went ;D.
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 05, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Yes I know about the titanium washers, you were supposed to send me some, along with some other stuff around that time. I hope you never send those, because I never got them.
I'm still going to say that the 501 is a better choice, you could fish that reel at 12lb and up to 22lb. when needed.
I just tested a jigmaster with 5-149 main and 13-49 pinion, the handle had a 1/4" play, due to the larger notch on the pinion ( nothing that we couldn't fix), but that didn't seem to bother it. I tighten the star as hard as I could and pulled 25lbs of rolling weight by turning the handle. It took very little effort and pulled it very smoothly, gear ratio was 2.5:1.
Hey Sal, what bridge and sleeve did you use when you tried this experiment? That would be one tough and light live bait grouper digger, and use some cc plates and tiburon frame for added strength???
That 259 sounds like a good shelfie, given the condition. Picture plates on these reels are very nice. Wooden handle---good. Sounds like it's godda plastic spool. I got one, probably a latter model and had fun upgrading it with regular penn parts, for example a 113H - 3 screw stand. It's a not-too-pretty workin reel, much stronger than before, for yak trollin.
On the P. coast, for bottom fishin, a Jiggy(501-best IMHO) w/4:1 gears is about perfect for Rockies/Lings. These critters don't fight hard, especially after you start to move 'em up and pressure diffrences affect 'em. 50-100' depth w/4-10 oz. weight is good for a smaller-lighter reel(e.g., Squidder), but beyound that a good size crank w/4:1 gears, usin 12-24 oz wt. makes an old school jiggy a good choice. Best of both worlds is a 2-speed, lower price point rig, such as an older Avet. On the Charters I'm gonna smack it around a bit and there's a chance of an over-board or rip-off loss.
Quote from: Darin Crofton on March 16, 2019, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 05, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Yes I know about the titanium washers, you were supposed to send me some, along with some other stuff around that time. I hope you never send those, because I never got them.
I'm still going to say that the 501 is a better choice, you could fish that reel at 12lb and up to 22lb. when needed.
I just tested a jigmaster with 5-149 main and 13-49 pinion, the handle had a 1/4" play, due to the larger notch on the pinion ( nothing that we couldn't fix), but that didn't seem to bother it. I tighten the star as hard as I could and pulled 25lbs of rolling weight by turning the handle. It took very little effort and pulled it very smoothly, gear ratio was 2.5:1.
Hey Sal, what bridge and sleeve did you use when you tried this experiment? That would be one tough and light live bait grouper digger, and use some cc plates and tiburon frame for added strength???
I don't remember Darin, it has been a while.
I thought you were asking about the 259, so I took a pic for you. Mine has Bryan's ultimate kit...love those kits
(https://i.imgur.com/Vqc5so7.jpg)
I wouldn't use anything smaller than a 4/0.
This one would be very capable, I used the 5-149 main gear and 13-113H pinion.
It feels unusually smooth, smother than stock. A few members have done the same and really like it.
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9979.msg93529#msg93529
Sal
I love that reel, def one of my favorites I've seen on this board, Sal!
Thanks for sharing buddy!