This is around the 4-5th Spiny Dogfish Shark I caught after getting my Salmon limit in the morning.
At the beginning, I thought the shark had taken the bait for a swim but later dropped it.
Not the case as it had eaten the bait and swum back under the dock I was fishing from.
As it comes out from under the dock, another following shark is visible for a short time.
This happened two or three times.
This is also the one I got careless with and ended up having the shark spear me in the ankle THROUGH the boot. He put the SPINE back into SPINY Dogfish by demonstrating his use of said spine on me.
Not much of a wound as the boot slowed down the penetration greatly.
https://youtu.be/a66cO4LL2Qk (https://youtu.be/a66cO4LL2Qk)
Whoa, you just commented yesterday about those moving thorns too. Ouch I bet.
Quote from: Rancanfish on September 28, 2016, 07:31:11 PM
Whoa, you just commented yesterday about those moving thorns too. Ouch I bet.
Yep, mama always said "Stupid is as stupid does".
Lucky I didn't get whacked more than that.
Got the video right.
It's raw so as it happened you see it.
this is the bugger that does the most damage as the tail flails.
The exposed spine is 2 plus inches and more down under the skin. Diameter of the spine at the base is about 1/4" and plenty sharp on the end. It pierced the boot like a fillet knife would.
Another short clip. This was the very first one I caught on a GLoomis 1086 salmon rod with an Abu Garcia Inshore baitcaster reel using a jumbo power handle I swapped off my Okuma Komodo. Fit was same on both reels.
Line was 20# PowerPro. 8/0 Gamakatsu circle hook, braided steel leader with nylon coating, weight for casting. Bait was piece of Pink Salmon belly.
This fish was right at 4 feet and 22 pounds.
https://youtu.be/Ffh_eqkLV1g (https://youtu.be/Ffh_eqkLV1g)
Nice Videos and Thanks. Congratulations!!
That is why they are called spiney dogfish. I hate them and blue sharks.
Like Bill says "cool beans." Dominick
Quote from: Keta on September 28, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
That is why they are called spiney dogfish. I hate them and blue sharks.
Well, Lee, that is a true SE AK answer....both the lodge owner where I stay and the one who let me fish off his dock said the same.
Basically- kill 'em all.
I can easily see the attitude as they are to a charter guide a real nuiscance to deal with.
Not a "money fish" like Salmon and Halibut are. Tough skin, a mess to deal wih once hooked and will wreck the terminal tackle with all the spinning they do trying to get loose. Nothing you want on your boat either.
I did not kill them but they drove us from good halibut fishing areas when they were there. They are not good to eat too.
Yea, that's what I hear, too. Not really kill 'em all. Just irritating so that you have to move far enough away to re- find a good halibut zone.
If there's dogfish down there....you pull up and move.
I'm in it for angling fun since salmon are limited out.
Dogfish don't get the respect they deserve. I believe they have the longest gestation period of any sharks, up to 3 yrs I believe. Sexual maturity is very long too. A 20lber can easily be over 70 yrs old. Look it up!
True
Quote from: newport on September 29, 2016, 04:51:37 AM
Dogfish don't get the respect they deserve. I believe they have the longest gestation period of any sharks, up to 3 yrs I believe. Sexual maturity is very long too. A 20lber can easily be over 70 yrs old. Look it up!
Looks like I may researching my quarry further. The first one I caught was female and probably expecting because of her girth.
Still might harvest one or two next year to eat.
But I feel good about the ones I released only had a pierced lip and a scary memory of the world above their watery one below. ;)
This video was shot from the camera on the tripod nearby vs the one on my noggin.
It shows the "clean and jerk" landing technique and also how tough even a small fish like this can be to manage due to it's squirming nature and cartilaginous skeleton.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/JY4qrSxf-lA (https://youtu.be/JY4qrSxf-lA)
Thanks for the great videos. It looks like you are having fun. Too bad about the one getting you with its spine. Be careful!
Quote from: Cone on September 30, 2016, 01:25:31 PM
Thanks for the great videos. It looks like you are having fun. Too bad about the one getting you with its spine. Be careful!
thanks, Bob, once the spine pierced the boot, it barely touched my ankle before I quickly reacted and lifted my foot away. I was clamping the tail with both feet and like a gator it wanted to spin and flick that tail around.
That lift was not bad. You did it with style and panache. Dominick
Good Job Steve-O! ;)
That thing squirms like a snake.
I tried them before. They're not bad eating, but not that great either. I fried them in beer batter, because I heard they are used as fish and chips in the UK, so it must be pretty darn good. However, it just ended up okay. It was just a bit too meaty, while a flakier consistency would have been much better. Texture is everything. I should have marinated and thrown it on the grill. That might have been awesome. The hardest part in trying it for me was the ammonia smell, even if the shark was well bled, but once its cooked, smell is gone.
I don't like the dense meat either. Dominick
Horned Dogs urinate through their skin when dying. Bleeding them won't help. Some people on the Head Boat that I worked on would clean them at the end of the day & take them home.
Mike
That's interesting Mike. I never knew that and thanks for the tidbit of information.
....................Lou
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 01, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
Horned Dogs urinate through their skin when dying. Bleeding them won't help. Some people on the Head Boat that I worked on would clean them at the end of the day & take them home.
Mike
Yep, to my knowledge all sharks pee through their skin. If you see in a fish market and it smells like ammonia it was not prepped right.
Bonk, brain spike, bleed out, GUT AND BEHEAD, ice down!, ALL DONE FAST.
That's what I've heard lessens the chance of getting bad ureic acid meat. Have also heard of folks soaking the fillets in milk or buttermilk.
I've eaten sharks back in NC and yes, it has texture like steak. Not old cow tough steak but more texture than most fish. I call it steak/lobster. Very white and mild when fresh and grilled.
I will be finding out hopefully in about 51 weeks! :D
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 01, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
Horned Dogs urinate through their skin when dying. Bleeding them won't help. Some people on the Head Boat that I worked on would clean them at the end of the day & take them home.
Mike
We blead, skined and iced the one we tried to eat, did not help.
This is really pretty cool to see some of the fish some you deal with. Even when they are considered a nuisance like this one here. But in their own way they are a pretty neat fish. But ya I'd probably be tempted to take a hammer to them after dealing with them for a while....Jeff
I like to grab the nose & bend it back to touch the head & return to the water. It swims on top & the Sea Gulls pick it apart.
Mike